Do any of you w/Type 2 Diabetes also have ADD?
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Robin robin4...@yahoo.com
I'm newly diagnosed with Diabetes, I'm told its very mild, doesn't require any meds, but have to lose weight. I want to eat small but frequent meals throughout the day but because of my ADD, it breaks whatever momentum I have to get things done throughout the day, and then become overwhelmed, and not able to do it.
Have you found a way to handle this?
"Julie Bove" julieb...@verizon.net
My dad does, but he pretty much eats non stop. So that's not a problem for him.
As for diabetes, there is no such thing as "mild" diabetes. You either have it or you don't. I presume you are testing your BG (blood glucose) on a regular basis? As for the losing weight, it may or may not help you. If I were you, I'd consider finding a Dr. who will treat this like the serious disease that it is and not pretend that it's no big deal.
"Priscilla H. Ballou" vze23...@verizon.net
In article <robin4joy-E95227.20272507052...@news.phx.highwinds-media.com>, Yeah, I'm an ADDult with type 2 diabetes. I haven't found this to be problem, myself, but my biggest symptom which has been alieviated by my meds (Adderall) is a problem initiating tasks (aka "paralysis of the will"). I am able to follow through better as well (all the way through cleaning up afterwards sometimes!), but I haven't found that stopping for a snack has caused problems with that. Perhaps if you use snacks that are easy to prepare in advance and keep on hand that might help minimize the distraction of going for them.
May I ask how your numbers are? Losing weight may be helpful, but there may be other treatment options which can be even more efficacious. I found that weight loss followed along as a side-effect of lowering my intake of carbohydrates. It wasn't a goal, but it happened anyway.
Priscilla, T2
Wes Groleau groleau+n...@freeshell.org
I prepared not-too-carby snacks that did not require refrigeration and just kept them with me, grabbing a handful now and then.
If you have a scheduled break time, a hard-boiled egg would be good.
Mine were mostly nuts, carrots, things like that. Certain kinds of crackers or chips might be acceptable depending on your meter readings.
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Wes Groleau He that complies against his will is of the same opinion still.
-- Samuel Butler, 1612-1680
"jacquie" happi...@nospam.net
Priscilla, Adderall doesn't cut your appetite? My Grandson is on it and doesn't eat anything from 8am-about 7PM. So his Mom fixes him a big breakfast in the mornings and they don't have dinner until 6:30 or 7 in the evening. He will snack on cheese crackers once and a while but usually will not . When he was first on it he almost looked anorexic, but once his body adjusted to it he did better. Adderall sure helps him in school though..he made the honor roll twice last year:) Jacquie "Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23...@verizon.net> wrote in message ...
"bj" bjone...@bellatlantic.net
Is there some particular reason you want to eat small but frequent?
e.g. weight loss program, med-less bg control?
I got tired of the s-b-f system after a few years & opted for meds. I took Prandin for a few years & recently switched to Januvia.
bj
Robin robin4...@yahoo.com
In article <E4b0i.2070$py5.1450@trnddc06>, For many years, I've heard/read that eating s-b-f can result in weight loss due to metabolism and perhaps other factors. I'm now reading the Insulin Resistance Diet by Cheryle R. Hart M.D. and Mary Kay Grossman RD, and their findings and recommendation is to follow the s-b-f system which will result in weight loss and eliminate need to take Metformin.
My doctor has given me Glucophage (because I asked for it, hearing that many people have lost weight with it who had been unable to lose weight in the past - which is my situation). But then I read the side effects, especially severe nausea, and because I have issues with vomiting, I'm afraid to take it, even though I have considered taking only a fraction of the dose until/if my body adjusts without queasiness/nausea. Haven't started that yet, and why I find the Ins Resistance Diet appealing. The planning ahead, having meals ready to eat immediately is key for me, but the ADD challenges me to do that consistently.
"Priscilla H. Ballou" vze23...@verizon.net
Not much during the day. I do find myself not wanting my dinner until quite late (9 or 10 PM), but I enjoy having the time to do things when I get home (between 7 and 8).
I'm on a pretty low dose, though, because higher does make me forget to eat and then I start going low BG-wise and start speeding. Not a pretty picture. But 10 mg XR twice a day slows me down enough and keeps my prefrontal cortex sufficiently engaged to let me get stuff done. I still remember to eat at work and don't start aiming for the land speed record for talking. ;-) Priscilla, T2 ADDult
Nicky ukc802466...@btconnect.com
That's the way to do it... FWIW, I never vomited. The first pill caused severe diarrhea, subsequent ones much less; I'd acclimatised within 3 days. Some people never do, of course, but it might be worth trying to see if it works for you.
Have you tried low carbing? - dual weight loss / good bg control for some people?
Nicky.
"W. Baker" wba...@panix.com
: > "Robin" <robin4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message : > ...
: > > I'm newly diagnosed with Diabetes, I'm told its very mild, doesn't : > > require any meds, but have to lose weight. I want to eat small but : > > frequent meals throughout the day but because of my ADD, it breaks : > > whatever momentum I have to get things done throughout the day, and then : > > become overwhelmed, and not able to do it.
: > > : > > Have you found a way to handle this?
: > : > Is there some particular reason you want to eat small but frequent?
: > e.g. weight loss program, med-less bg control?
: > : > I got tired of the s-b-f system after a few years & opted for meds. I took : > Prandin for a few years & recently switched to Januvia.
: > bj : For many years, I've heard/read that eating s-b-f can result in : weight loss due to metabolism and perhaps other factors. I'm now : reading the Insulin Resistance Diet by Cheryle R. Hart M.D. and Mary Kay : Grossman RD, and their findings and recommendation is to follow the : s-b-f system which will result in weight loss and eliminate need to take : Metformin.
: My doctor has given me Glucophage (because I asked for it, hearing that : many people have lost weight with it who had been unable to lose weight : in the past - which is my situation). But then I read the side effects, : especially severe nausea, and because I have issues with vomiting, I'm : afraid to take it, even though I have considered taking only a fraction : of the dose until/if my body adjusts without queasiness/nausea. Haven't : started that yet, and why I find the Ins Resistance Diet appealing. : The planning ahead, having meals ready to eat immediately is key for me, : but the ADD challenges me to do that consistently.
i didn't find nausea the issue, rather the other end of the gastric system. Using the extended release form halped me enormously with that problem. Also, you usually start with a lower dose and work up to lessen the gastric effects. Wendy
"jacquie" happi...@nospam.net
LOL..we can always tell when my GS is off his meds(weekends so he will eat) he talks a mile a minute and if he is tired, it even gets worse. When he was a toddler, when he was tired he never relaxed..the more tired he got the more busy he got. He was jumping off of stacked cushions when he was two.
Figured out how to climb a 5 ft wall when he was 18 months...he tired us out just watching..I kept on wondering how I raised three...when he was diagnosed at the end of 2nd grade we all said Ahh Hah...now it makes sense:) I just read an article that when an ADHD teen is driving they really need to be on their meds...they have four times as many accidents as a non adhd teen..scary huh? When he was 10 he told his teacher one day that he is so tired but his brain just wouldn't stop...Is that how you feel or felt ?
It's nice to meet an ADD adult...to see that it is possible to be functional as an adult. There are days when we wonder if he will make it..of course he just turned 13 so my daughter still has those to mess with.
Jacquie "Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze23...@verizon.net> wrote in message ...
"jacquie" happi...@nospam.net
I have found the XR is much more gentle than the regular. I had nausea and diarrhea...not anymore.
Jacquie ...
"Priscilla H. Ballou" vze23...@verizon.net
Oh, I'm not like that when I'm off my meds. It's when I'm on too high a level of meds (aka speed) and let my BG drop. That's when I start talking really really really really fastfastfast. ;-) Now, my 11 year old niece... you just described her. When she gets tired she gets "hyper." Hmmmm.
I wasn't really aware of it until I started the meds, then I remarked to people that it felt like gravity had never applied to me before, but now it did. My mind was just floating around in the breeze, but with the meds it feels like my mental feet are now held down to the sidewalk so I can't be blown away. In practical terms I can now initiate tasks and carry them all the way through. A miracle, I tell you. Of course I'm still lazy so I'm not batting 1000 ;-) but I can DO so much more now when I want to!
I was getting farther and farther away from "functional" until I was diagnosed at the age of 52. My brain is quite powerful and had found all kinds of ways to compensate, but those compensations were finally wearing thin enough in middle age for a smart therapist to make the diagnosis and send me for testing and meds. So, after years of being told I was lazy, irresponsible, and not working up to my potential (since about age 7) I finally found out that my brain works funny and I need speed to slow it down and get the executive control module (prefrontal cortex) to kick in and start managing.
I tell you, he has a whole lot better shot than if he'd gone undiagnosed. Undiagnosed ADDers and ADHDers tend to self-medicate with alcohol and drugs (I hear cocaine can help just like speed can -- too bad I never tried that, because that knowledge might have helped me get diagnosed sooner). I have 22 years recovery from alcoholism, and only now do I realize that part of my drinking may have been to compensate for my oddly functioning brain. Not that there wasn't enough else going on to send me into a bottle, but I digress.
Nice talking to you!
Priscilla, T2, ADD, and a bunch of other identifiers
George Elting justg...@comcast.net
ADD is so fun with diabetes.... NOT! It's hard enough to have one or the other, but both really complicates life. I find that having a schedule for things I need to do works for me. I also use my computer to pop up reminders for things I MUST do. :)
Wes Groleau groleau+n...@freeshell.org
I spend too much time at my computer, but not enough to use it for that. At the beginning, I found it very frustrating trying to remember to test at the time I planned.
Not so bad now that I don't need to test as often.
But my doctor still shakes his head every visit when I mention forgetting to take all the non-DM meds and suplements I've got.
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Wes Groleau "What you see and hear depends a good deal on where you are standing; it also depends on what kind of person you are." -- C.S.Lewis
George Elting justg...@comcast.net
Wes, I use a program I got from this site: http://www.karenware.com/powertools/powertools.asp The program is called Karen's Countdown Timer II and has a very small footprint!
On Sat, 12 May 2007 12:55:38 GMT, Wes Groleau
Wes Groleau groleau+n...@freeshell.org
Wouldn't do me any good for two reasons: (1) To put it another way, a computer program can't remind me to test two hours after eating unless it can also remind me the log in to the computer 110 minutes after eating.
(2) I don't use (shudder) Windows.
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Wes Groleau http://groleau.freeshell.org/teaching/
George Elting justg...@comcast.net
The answer to #1 I can understand...
But Windows is good... Bill told me so! :) On Mon, 14 May 2007 01:29:04 GMT, Wes Groleau
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