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"Roger Schlafly" roge...@mindspring.com

This study found that ritalin use leads to cocaine abuse.
Stimulant treatment in high school also did not influence drug use in adulthood except for greater use of cocaine.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/111/1/97 They found, unfortunately, that treatment with stimulant medication in high school is significantly ***ociated with the risk of ever trying cocaine.
That this is a valid conclusion is supported by their finding that treatment with stimulant medication in childhood is ***ociated with cocaine use in adulthood, although after adjusting for "disease severity" and the presence of conduct disorder, the ***ociation was no longer significant.
The authors work extraordinarily hard to explain to the reader why the first finding, which is statistically significant, is actually not real. The na??ve reader may wonder why the authors are so invested in undermining their own carefully performed results.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/extract/112/6/1459 It is not hard to explain. The study author is a big promoter of stimulant medication for ADHD, and has written a book on the subject.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1572302755/002-4234100-...

"Marciosos2 Probertiosos2" MarcProber...@lumbercartel.com

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1572302755/002-4234100-... from http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/111/1/97 See last sentence....(roger, the last sentence is the one with the *** in front and in back).
Results. Duration of stimulant treatment was not significantly ***ociated with frequency of any form of drug use by young adulthood. Stimulant-treated children had no greater risk of ever trying drugs by adolescence or any significantly greater frequency of drug use by young adulthood. Stimulant treatment in high school also did not influence drug use in adulthood except for greater use of cocaine. This difference was no longer significant after controlling for severity of attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and conduct disorder in childhood, adolescence, and adulthood. Stimulant treatment in either childhood or high school was not ***ociated with any greater risk for any formal Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Third Edition, Revised drug dependence or abuse disorders by adulthood. Treatment with stimulants did not increase the risk of ever having tried most illegal substances by adulthood except for cocaine.
***Subsequent analyses showed that this elevated risk was primarily mediated by severity of conduct disorder by young adulthood and not by stimulant treatment in childhood.*** Can you read? Did you understand that sentence if you could?

"Roger Schlafly" roge...@mindspring.com

Yeah, so he says, because he is a big ritalin pusher. But the fact is that his data show that ritalin users are more likely to abuse cocaine. His theory for the reason is questionable.
BTW, the data don't seem to be available; I just posted the abstract link.

"Marciosos2 Probertiosos2" MarcProber...@lumbercartel.com

So you say. Of course, Dr. B reached his conclusion by analysis, not idle specualtion. We know your biases, and your proclivity for idle specualtion.
I am sure it is available in the original article.
Dust off your library card.

"Jeff" kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com

Bottom line of the study: This study concurs with 11 previous studies in finding no compelling evidence that stimulant treatment of children with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder leads to an increased risk for substance experimentation, use, dependence, or abuse by adulthood.

"CBI" 00_...@mindspring.com

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CBI, MD

"Roger Schlafly" roge...@mindspring.com

Isn't it amazing how all those ritalin advocates can explain away the evidence that is staring them in the face?

"Jeff" kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com

Isn't it always amazing how you can come to conclusions that are not supported by the data?
Jeff

"Marciosos2 Probertiosos2" MarcProber...@lumbercartel.com

No, the amazing thing is that you cannot read.

"Roger Schlafly" roge...@mindspring.com

Here are some more new studies showing negative long-term consequences of ritalin.
Ritalin use in preteen children may lead to depression later in life, studies of rats suggest.
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/78/95700.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_nb_05 http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/dec2003/nida-08.htm http://www.forbes.com/business/newswire/2003/12/08/rtr1172286.html

"Marciosos2 Probertiosos2" MarcProber...@lumbercartel.com

Let me suggest that you read Joe PArsons comments in the thread entitled Re: Stimulants doom Children to life of unhappiness, despair,  depression..

"Jeff" kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com

Are these studies or press releases? And if they are press releases, are they about the same study or different study?
For having a Ph.D., you sure aren't bright.
Jeff

"Roger Schlafly" roge...@mindspring.com

3 different studies are described. All indicate negative long-terms effects of ritalin, based on rat experiments.
Yes, it is unfortunate that the authors have not put detailed reports and raw data on the web, so everyone can examine them. There is no excuse for burying tax-funded studies. There are millions of ritalin users who need this info.

00 ...@mindspring.com (CBI)

So post it to a veterinary group.
How about humans?

00 ...@mindspring.com (CBI)

Ummmm.... 11 studies in humans out of 11 show that Ritalin does not increase the incidence of abusing drugs and you call it "explaining away the evidence"...yet...when you list 3 studies in rats we should all take heed.
At least you are consistently inconsistent.
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CBI, MD

mlow ...@bellsouth.net (Mark)

Is that anything like "irregularly irregular"?
Mark, MD

"Marciosos3 Probertiosos3" MarcProber...@lumbercartel.com

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Nope. Just the opposite.

"Jeff" kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/78/95700.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_nb_05 Studies described. These are not studies. They are news stories. Very different. And, as we have seen many times, news reports can be inaccurate.
Everyone can examine them. There is the place in the hosptials called the "library".
And what would they do with the raw data?
Jeff

"Roger Schlafly" roge...@mindspring.com

You think the NIH got it wrong? Then post your own summary.
http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/dec2003/nida-08.htm So go examine the raw data, if you know where it is.
People have been asking for long-term studies on ritalin. Well here are 3 of them, and the results are all negative.

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