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"Tommy Kelly" tkelly15...@charter.net
What is the skeptic perspective on Attention Deficit ( / Hyperactive) Disorder? Is it an excuse of does it have some verification.
fishfry fish...@your-mailbox.com
Could you repeat the question?
ri ...@is.rice.edu (Rick Russell)
I suspect that, like most issues of mental health, you have a broad spectrum. Some people really do have problems concentrating, and it follows them into adulthood -- problems that are clear and verifiable.
But I suspect that the vast bulk of "ADD" cases are simply exuberant kids that will learn better as they grow up. Instead of dealing with their youthful energy, parents and schools would rather drug them into a stupor.
Rick R.
LP whirl_p...@nospam.hotmail.com
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:21:42 -0500, "Tommy Kelly" I don't believe it is a disease.
I believe the "hyperactive" kids are the ones that are normal, and the ones who have "brains that are in slow motion", might be the kids that need the help.
Here are some links of interest.
Note, some of these sites seem to have questionable motives of their own.
The Totality Of The ADD/ADHD Fraud http://members.tripod.com/~Autarchic/files/adhd.html Death From Ritalin The Truth Behind ADHD http://www.ritalindeath.com/ What is ADD / ADHD ?
Is it a disease? Or a Fraud?
http://www.adhdfraud.org/frameit.asp?src=http://www.adhdvideo.org http://www.adhdfraud.com/frameit.asp?src=http://search.news.yahoo.com... http://www.adhdfraud.org/frameit.asp?src=commentary.htm There are a lot of interesting books that have been written on the subject.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966554531 The Myth of the A.D.D Child:50 Ways to Improve Your Child's Behavior and Attention Span Without Drugs, Labels, or Coercion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0452275474 12 Effective Ways to Help Your Add/Adhd Child: Drug-Free Alternatives for Attention-Deficit Disorders http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1583330399 THE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN LABELED ADD/ADHD WERE NORMAL ALL ALONG http://www.attention-deficit-disorder.org/editorials/millions-really-...
Matt Giwer jul...@tampabay.rr.com
There is no single perspective on anything.
However, there is only one possible conclusion if it is a real disease. It is a dangerous infectuous disease that appeared about fifteen years ago. It is my considered opinion Reagan was at fault for not declaring a national health emergency to address the disease.
If the above is not true then it belongs in the ritual, satanic child abuse category and anyone who presribes drugs for it should lose their license. And teachers who "diagnosis" it should be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license. And civil suits should follow.
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Matt Giwer jul...@tampabay.rr.com
I say it because it did not exist when I was in school in the 1950s and early 60s. And I say it is highly contagious because in some schools as many as half the students have it. It is also highly selective by sex which is essentially unheard of outside of diseases of the sex organs. And if the excuse is overreaction that is why I recommend prosecution for practicing medicine without a license.
How can such a large percentage have a condition that did not exist fifty years ago? We can't be talking anything subtle for so many to have the condition.
As for recognizing the problem, it is not recognized as a condition by the medical community.
Which is why criminal prosecution is required.
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LP whirl_p...@nospam.hotmail.com
Idiopathic scoliosis, autism, and color blindness, are all highly selective based on gender.
Matt Giwer jul...@tampabay.rr.com
So you are naming this as a disease and agreeing with the former postulate. Do you also agree ADD is a new and highly contagious disease? and if not, why not?
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LP whirl_p...@nospam.hotmail.com
No, my post is directed only at your last sentence which incorrectly stated that "diseases that are selective by sex are essentially unheard of outside of diseases of the sex organs." Just because I disagree with that one statement doesn't mean I disagree with the previous statements.
I believe ADD is a contrived disease.
Kevin D. Quitt Ke...@Quitt.net
It shows up in MRIs of the brain.
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tcran ...@yahoo.com (Todd Crane)
Or does it. I'm not sure that a satisfactory baseline has been established for brain activity based on MRI scans. Many MRI studies suggest that the male brain appears more active, thus more ADD like, than the female brain in the vast majority of cases. A scan representing a highly active, but still within acceptable bounds, male brain would be considered highly ADD in the female brain.
I've seen a few of the MRI brain scan comparisions in ADD literature distributed to teachers. When you read the fine print, what you often see is a side by side comparision of a "normal" female brain to an "ADD" male brain. Apples and oranges.
Todd
Kevin D. Quitt Ke...@Quitt.net
Cite? The studies I've seen show (control) normals, matching ADD without and with Ritalin.
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LP whirl_p...@nospam.hotmail.com
I have never seen a study where the researchers were able to pick out the people with ADD based on brain scan images alone.
All the documentaries I have seen show the researchers subjectively verifying what they expected to see. (like the homeopathy researchers do)
"Lawson English" engli...@mindspring.com
MRI isn't suitable for that kind of thing. You need an fMRI scan for that.
LP whirl_p...@nospam.hotmail.com
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:48:37 GMT, "Lawson English" Regardless.
None of the studies I have seen show sufficient evidence that the average "ADD" labeled child can be recognized using any form of brain imaging.
All they showed were after-the-fact matching of images to the patient.
The same kind of faulty research used to "prove" homeopathy.
"Lawson English" engli...@mindspring.com
WHich studies are these? Do you have cites from medline?
LP whirl_p...@nospam.hotmail.com
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:14:23 GMT, "Lawson English" ALL of them.
Choose any study you want.
The studies I saw were described in documentaries.
When I see a single study where the researcher didn't know ahead of time which images were ADD and which ones were normal, I will change my opinion about there being a close organic cause and effect relationship with ADD. I have yet to see any evidence that there is.
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