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"brudgers" nom...@tampabay.rr.com
If you're lucky enough to be Canadian, yes ... sort of. You can earn the equivalent of a professional degree from a university through the RAIC Syllabus ... though it can take awhile and you have some face to studio time requirements.
Here's the FAQ: http://www.raic-syllabus.ca/public/pdf/FAQ.pdf Otherwise, No.
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"Pierre Levesque, AIA" pierreleves...@connarch.com
correction: > If you're lucky enough to be ENGLISH Canadian, yes ...
Only available to english speaking Canadians according to the FAQ... could you imagine the stir that would cause here in the States?
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"brudgers" nom...@tampabay.rr.com
I thought Canadians only pretended to be English ... just like French pretend to be Quebeque.
To quote the FAQ: "The program is available in English only to residents of Canada." So I think even a Francophone could participate though not in his native toungue.
andrijdeletethesefourwo ...@shawbiz.ca
Correction: The RAIC Sylabus program is offered by the RAIC (equivalent of AIA).
The RAIC represents 9 out of 10 Canadian provinces. The Quebec architects ***ociation has withdrawn from the RAIC many years ago, and as such is not part of RAIC. The majority language in Canada not inclusive of Quebec is English, and as such, it seems logical that the language of instruction in this sylabus program is the english language.
The RAIC sylabus program does not distinguish between any ethnic or racial groups as Monsieur Levesque would have you believe.
Andrij On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:07:35 -0400, "Pierre Levesque, AIA"
"Don" one-if-by-l...@concord.com
How is it that speaking english is considered *ethnic or racial*?
andrijdeletethesefourwo ...@shawbiz.ca
Mr. Levesque said ENGLISH Canadians. I speak english but i happen to be a ukrainian canadian whose first language is Ukrainian, and i am definately not english as per my culture. Speaking english has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. Lumping everyone in Canada who speaks english and calling them erroneously English Canadians is talking about race and ethnicity. Do you see the difference?
Andrij
"Don" one-if-by-l...@concord.com
<andrij> wrote OK, you misspoke. No problem, apology accepted.
Here's the thing, and this may be difficult for you (and others) to wrap your head around.
There is no such thing as *English Canadian*. Just as there is no *German American* or *anything anything*.
What there is, is, that beltway mentality has caused an imaginary line in the sand that has effectively divided certain *non-thinking* persons to believe they are favorable over others. You appear to have been a victim of this childish ploy.
*You are who YOU are*, period.
Fancy additions (and thus exclusions) to ones *heritage* only serves to water down what was originally there.
Through the linkage of my name it is true that my ancestors lived in Germany and in fact I have lived in that country for a number of years. But it would require something on the order of a m***ive brain tumor or a dozen hits of Window Pane for me to be *convinced* that somehow my ethnicity was converted without my authority to German-American.
Really, there are bigger fish to fry than worrying about the label one sticks on your back.........
"sanjian" sanj...@widomaker.com
Damnit... I was standing by with the mallet at ready, prepared to hammer you if you had gone with the "You are American, or Canadian, or German" anti-hyphenation route. Instead, you dodged that pit-fall.
For the rest of y'all, it's not that I disagree with the anti-hyphenation argument, I just thought Don was going to be inconsistant for a moment.
*Puts Mr. Justice back in the truck*
"Don" one-if-by-l...@concord.com
Justice, you want justice?
"Justice lies in the barrel of a gun."
"sanjian" sanj...@widomaker.com
"I believe in the death penalty, as administered by the gun held by the would-be victim."
"Don" one-if-by-l...@concord.com
I think that should read, "....as administered by the would-be victim holding the gun." (inanimate objects can't render justice or anything else) I was quoting Mao above.
"Pierre Levesque, AIA" pierreleves...@connarch.com
Hey now Andrej... All I said was imagine the stink if this program were here in the States... every ethnic, language and religious group would raise hell... that's all...
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"Don" one-if-by-l...@concord.com
Just mentioning it is apparently enough for some folk to get their knickers in a twist.
Everybody would be better off if they just took a deep breath and stopped over reacting.
"Pierre Levesque, AIA" <pierreleves...@connarch.com> wrote in message ...
andrijdeletethesefourwo ...@shawbiz.ca
Pierre I do not understand why you think there would be a stink in the USA if there was a program similar to the RAIC sylabus program there? What would ethnic, language and religious groups have against it? I must be missing something.
Andrij On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:49:57 -0400, "Pierre Levesque, AIA"
"Pierre Levesque, AIA" pierreleves...@connarch.com
I think the ERA , NAACP, CERA, CERF and all equal rights people would jump on the RAIC for not making the program available in multi-languages.
Otherwise, I was just stirring the waters a little... you dio know how to swim don't ya? ;-) ...
"brudgers" nom...@tampabay.rr.com
Multiple languages is a Canadian thing - hell, the big thing in the US during the late eighties was English as the official language legislation and state constitutional amendmets....Don't be so sensative, the Francophones are the ones always talking 'bout leaving.
creativeopensou ...@hotmail.com (Power Poodle)
I've in fact been thinking of taking this RAIC program...
Perhaps there would be someone hereon who might be interested in taking me on as an apprentice? :) I wonder if a Canadian could fulfill the RAIC requirements under a foreign architect, or Canadian one working in/on a foreign place/project.
Richard
"brudgers" nom...@tampabay.rr.com
See my original response. There are face to face studio requirements - it's not apprenticeship and it's not full correspondence. But otherwise, I don't recall it having residency restrictions, only citizenship, so you could always commute.
Licensure in Canada is generally parallel to US licensure. Architects are licensed through the provintial governments. Experience and education are documented similarlly to NCARB.
The difference is in the professional education requirements where RAIC has an alternative to full time university study. But it has similar content.
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"Pierre Levesque, AIA" pierreleves...@connarch.com
Richard, Don't know where you live but IIRC, the RIAC program stated that it would take 12 years to complete. Many states have professional equivalency available (like here in NY State) that also takes about 12 years to complete without any specific educational training. Coincidentally, NY State equivalency is 12 years of work under licensed individuals.
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creativeopensou ...@hotmail.com (Power Poodle)
"brudgers" Yes, that sounds about right about the RAIC req's. Thanks for the added info.
creativeopensou ...@hotmail.com (Power Poodle)
I am in Ottawa, Ontario...
I was under the impression the last I looked that the RIAC program took more like 7 years.
...In any event, you'd think that with the time it takes to educate(?) ourselves- especially in some fields- our species lived 120 years on average.
... I presume some "education" is a scam (for money)?
Richard "Pierre Levesque, AIA"
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