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dt ...@scco.edu
Hi groups, I have been using Ultram to relieve my back pain for 3 years. daily dose is 200mg, sometimes up to 400 mg. I am so tired to lie around to get a early refill on it. Therefore I decided it is time to withdraw no matter what it takes. I had tried several times, but failure because of suffer from terrible symptoms. the only way to withdraw Ultram is using hydrocodone instead. I know this is a circle way, and I could be getting worse. Anyone has similar situation and have any way to withdraw ultram sucessfully? Thanks in advance.
"W4PHM" W4phm@nos...@earthlink.com
I honestly did not realize there was any withdrawl with ultram, what are the symptoms of ultram withdrawl.
I tak about 300 MG per day when I am really in pain but often don't take any at all for weeks.
Hope you get through it ok and I think that they hydrocodone route is a good way to go, that withdrawl I have expereienced and it is not too bad.
Regards, Patrick ...
Jon and Mary Miller jon.and.mary.mil...@comcast.net
I don't recognize OP, so it could be a troll. Or it could be real.
Ultram is potentially addictive, so there must be some effects of withdrawal.
No matter what, tapering "should" eliminate the withdrawal symptoms.
("Should" because I'm taking Neurontin, and there have been reported cases where, even with tapering, patients with no history of seizures started having seizures after taking Neurontin.) The problem with tapering from a pain reliever is that you don't get pain relief when you're not taking the drug. So when you're tapering down on one, you need to be titrating up on another.
Unless, of course, you can cure the *cause* of the pain.
Taper.
Jon Miller
spud bar...@bedrock.yeehaw
first fo all don't try to quit cold turkey...try gradually lowering your dosage on a daily basis...til you're finally off it. Don't put yourself through bad withdrawals. And don't substitute hydro for tramadol you'll just be digging yourself into a deeper hole. I wish you the best luck and hang in there , you can do it!!!
"Cherise" moonshado...@nospamchartermi.net
If this is a real thing, and your not a troll, then what you do, and I don't know why it's not sugested first every time, is you TALK TO YOUR DR!!! you must be getting it legally, right? so the next time you see your Dr, you tell him/her that you don't like the way you feel on the med, and you want to get off of it.
Then you follow your Dr's advice to the tee! Even if someone on here is a Dr, they don't know your case, even if your telling whole truths, or half lies. so see your Dr, and they can help you best, and we will support you the best we can.
I wish you the best of luck. Take care BTW they use catapress to help with withdrals, and that is a high blood preasure med, so as far as I'm concerned they use some strange meds to help with withdrawls. I happened to have a lot of side affects to the catapress so I had to stop that stuff.
:( Take care and be well Cherise
nwbluepeng ...@aol.come.on.in (Sue)
Excellent advice Cherise. Another med they use to help with withdrawal is Clonidine, which is also a blood pressure med.
Sue
Anonymouse anyb...@nowhere.com
Hi, moderate to strong dose of it.
I've got 200mg SR tramadol and the dose on those is 2 a day.
> I am so tired to lie around to get a early refill on it.
if you're getting real back pain and you're not getting adequeate medication (and if you're running out of fuggin' ULTRAM with a daily dose of ~300mg you ain't gettin' adequeate medication) then you need to see another doctor or make other arrangements.
for back pain due to being run over by a car 26 years ago my daily pain "habit" is something on the line of:
-regular day-
7am 1 aleve 3pm 1 soma* before dinner 1 tramadol* 10pm 1 50mg codeine phospate* * these are optional on good days and only taken as needed... a not uncommon day might just be the aleve and the codeine... felt good all day... then got to active ;-} in the evening and then need the codeine for back pain.
-worse day-
7am 200mg sr tramadol 12pm 1 soma 3pm 1 soma + 25mg codeine phospate 5:30pm 200mg sr tramadol 10pm 50mg codeine phospate for me this is good for bad fronts moving through... lately we've hand storm fronts with tornadoes... and I'll HURT when the front's moving through.
-bad days-
well I'm glad I've got a good ol' lady... she brings me something to drink and the "pain bottle" and I take as needed... start with 100mg of codeine + a soma... lay back down on the floor... play the radio to distract you... if needed I'll add 1mg of ativan...
if when I wake up (I'll manage sleep on codeine/soma/ativan stack) I'm still hurting at an unacceptable level I'll switch to sr bihydrocodeine and lay back down.
but this is just the kinda dosing that works for me... ymmv... consult a physician... I've got decades of experience dosing myself.
but as you see I (and a lot of docs) would not consider 400mg a lot of ultram for a chronic back pain patient.
robinm ...@aol.comnospam (RMK)
Sue, Clonidine is the generic name of Catapres, which is the one that Cherise mentioned....
Just an FYI :)...
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"W4PHM" W4phm@nos...@earthlink.com
Good Advice about talking to Dr. first, tapering, clonidine etc.
In this day and age, medically supervised withdrawl from anything can be made much more tolerable and there is no need for anyone to go throught it alone, regarless of how one got to that point.
Patrick
dt ...@scco.edu
_______________________ I have gone through 9 doctors since having 3 years back pain, and have been changed as refer from doctor to another doctor after the one gave up on me. They prescribed most of painkillers that from NSAIDs to SAIDs. I am used to addict to hydrocodone that causes severe constipation and other problems to my health. To solve the problem, another doctors prescribe Ultram, which could relieve the pain and substitute for hydrocodone. That works well to me! But I become addicted to it shortly. I talked to the doctors about I addicted to ultram that is the same as hydrocodone I used to. However, the doctors believed that Ultram is not addicted medicine, it is a NSAID and the symptoms I have is that simply "psychology." Actually, I don't have any problem with taking 200mg-300mg ultram daily. It makes me "happy" when I take higher dose. The main reason I want stopping is that it is gradually killing my sex drive. I am ok with that. The problem is my wife! I have to do something before it is too late. I don't know how much longer she stops pretending say: " don't worry, I don't mind." I greatly appreciated your advises. I will ask my doctor for trying on CLONIDINE.
"Paul T. Holland" pholl...@bellatlantic.net
I am singularly appalled at the information given by this doctor.
Before considering Ultam, 'just' an NSAID, read the patient FAQ: "Use in Opioid-dependent Patients: Tramadol HCl should not be used in opioid-dependent patients. Tramadol HCl has been shown to reinitiate physical dependence in some patients that have been previously dependent on other opioids. Consequently, in patients with a tendency to opioid abuse or opioid dependence, treatment with tramadol HCl is not recommended." ALSO: "DRUG ABUSE AND DEPENDENCE Tramadol HCl has a potential to cause psychic and physical dependence of the morphone-type (mc-opioid). The drug has been ***ociated with craving, drug-seeking behavior and tolerance development. Cases of abuse and dependence on tramadol HCl have been reported. Tramadol HCl should not be used in opioid-dependent patients. Tramadol HCl can reinitiate physical dependence in patients that have been previously dependent or chronically using other opioids. In patients with a tendency to drug abuse, a history of drug dependence, or are chronically using opioids, treatment with tramadol HCl is not recommended." "Cases of overdose with tramadol have been reported. Estimates of ingested dose in foreign fatalities have been in the range of 3 to 5 g.
A 3 g" Ultram - generic: TRAMADOL HCL Tramadol is a centrally acting synthetic analgesic compound. Although its mode of action is not completely understood, from animal tests, at least two complementary mechanisms appear applicable: binding of parent and M1 metabolite to mc-opioid receptors and weak inhibition of reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin. Opioid activity is due to both low affinity binding of the parent compound and higher affinity binding of the O-demethylated metabolite M1 to mc-opioid receptors. In animal models, M1 is up to 6 times more potent than tramadol in producing analgesia and 200 times more potent in mc-opioid binding. Tramadol-induced analgesia is only partially antagonized by the opiate antagonist naloxone in several animal tests. The relative contribution of both tramadol and M1 to human analgesia is dependent upon the plasma concentrations of each compound (see Pharmacokinetics).
Tramadol has been shown to inhibit reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin in vitro, as have some other opioid analgesics. These mechanisms may contribute independently to the overall analgesic profile of tramadol HCl. Analgesia in humans begins approximately within one hour after administration and reaches a peak in approximately two to three hours.
Apart from analgesia, tramadol administration may produce a constellation of symptoms (including dizziness, somnolence, nausea, constipation, sweating and pruritus) similar to that of an opioid.
However, tramadol causes less respiratory depression than morphine at recommended doses (see OVERDOSAGE). In contrast to morphine, tramadol has not been shown to cause histamine release. At therapeutic doses, tramadol has no effect on heart rate, left-ventricular function or cardiac index. Orthostatic hypotension has been observed.
You were SUPPOSED to have been given this information as a precaution. I would have a serious talk with this doctor...
"Barbara" SweetB...@comcast.net
I never knew there could be an addiction to Ultram. I popped them like crazy with no relief in sight and never got any symptoms of withdrawal when the bottle was empty. SB Hi groups, I have been using Ultram to relieve my back pain for 3 years. daily dose is 200mg, sometimes up to 400 mg. I am so tired to lie around to get a early refill on it. Therefore I decided it is time to withdraw no matter what it takes. I had tried several times, but failure because of suffer from terrible symptoms. the only way to withdraw Ultram is using hydrocodone instead. I know this is a circle way, and I could be getting worse. Anyone has similar situation and have any way to withdraw ultram sucessfully? Thanks in advance.
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