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nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
According to the CDC, in 1994 they established a program entitled "The Family and Intimate Violence Prevention Team (FIVPT)". Sounds good. It then goes on say that the CDC was appropriated in fiscal year 1997 $14.3 million to prevent violence against women. So much for objectivity, I suppose. http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/dvp/fivpt/fivpt.htm "CDC funded three state health departments in fiscal year 1994 to address family and intimate partner violence issues. The states will inventory existing data sources and prevention programs; systematically collect data on the incidence of intimate partner violence; plan, implement, and evaluate interventions specific to violence against women, and ***ess the health department's organizational capacity to address intimate partner violence." "The Pennsylvania Coalition Against Domestic Violence (PCADV) was funded to plan, implement, and evaluate an electronic network (VAWnet) designed to enhance the ability of state domestic violence coalitions and allied organizations to design and support effective local, state, and national intervention and prevention initiatives through the development, pilot testing, and implementation of a national electronic network focusing on violence against women. CDC is participating on subcommittees. FIVPT is a member of the Applied Research Advisory Group." There are also links to an interesting documented entitled "Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence" which sounds non-gender specific, but is sub-titled "Findings From the National Violence Against Women Survey". http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/181867.htm I suppose we could take the document at face value, but anything written from the perspective of violence against women can't be taken without a large grain of salt.
It reports, for example(page 30-31), that same-sex cohabiting women were nearly three times more likely to report being victimized by a male partner than by a female partner(yes, I know, it is illogical, I caught it too, but there it is: Page 30, bottom right corner). It goes on to say that opposite-sex cohabiting women were nearly twice as likely to report being victimizezd by a male partner than were same-sex cohabiting women by a female partner.
It ignores, in my view, the disdain lesbian women face when they go to a women's shelter.
It goes on to present similar data for gay men vs straight men, saying that gay men were more likely to report being ***aulted by a their partner than the straight men. It concludes that are the perpertrators of most of DV are men, whether against male or female partners.
It ignores, in my view, that many gay men do not feel bound by cultural norms and will speak out when they are ***aulted, and also that straight women are told day in day out to speak out against DV by all the ads that portray men as perpertrators. Men are not encouraged to do so, and recent police actions tell them they will be arrested not helped.
Yet the CDC's own numbers suggest that far more men than women die of homicide, suicide and accidental death. Homicide alone accounts for almost a 5:1 ratio against men, never mind suicide and accidental death. A higher percentage, so they claim, of women dies at the hand of an intimate than men. Yet for all that, the *total* numbers are still far less than the number of men who die.
Given the recent news reports in Toronto, my personal feeling is that women are far safer than men, regardless of the numbers that die due to DV.
Jen Larson stray...@udel.edu
cut what looks like very suspicious sexist rhetorhic at my (tax dollar) expense. I will check it out later, after I chill on the bike.
I live with a chyk, there is no way cohabitation=having sex.
I'm not going to hit her either, unless she hits me, which is highly doubtful.
Or men. Oh yeah, they don't have shelters.
Which would be true by evidence of reported ***aults. You must have knowledge of unreported ***ault to form a conclusion. The evidence exists that it is not the whole story, obviously.
Evidence suggests hypothesis.
Yes, men are more conditioned to embrace danger. It's good up to a point, then it becomes negative like so many things. For instance avoiding danger is healthy, unless you sit like a china piece in a parlor, then you are wasting what was given. It's all about degrees.
Yes, because women are conditioned to be safe due to evolutionary reproductive incentives. This is less reasonable today, obviously. Physical lags mental.
Jen Larson stray...@udel.edu
no they don't. they go on their own or take it if they can't.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
I did not use any of your tax dollars, so go **** yourself, Jen.
Dumb broad.
Dumb broad.
Dumb broad.
Well, no duh!
Evidence?
What?
What?
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
Of course not. That's for womynandchildren only.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
They don't have their own, as you well know. And attitude is perhaps the most sexist thing I've heard from you. Congratulations, Jen. A new low, even for you.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
Frankly, I don't know. I would presume it would happen when the boy children would reach a certain age, where their size and strength begins to frighten the poor little wimmins around them. I'd say around age 14 or so. Just a guess, mind you.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
I doubt they would allow a 17year old boy into one of places. That smacks too much like letting the enemy in through the gates.
"Michael Snyder" msny...@redhat.com
The numbers that _die_ due to DV are miniscule. Almost no one (of either gender) dies from DV. Yet the chances of being murdered by an intimate are far less unballanced than the chances of being criminally ***aulted by an intimate. Women are 85% of _reported_ victims of intimate ***ault, but only 66% of intimate homicide victims and only 59% of spousal homicide victims. The ratio of female to male spousal homicide victims is less than 3 to 2. DEADLY violence continues to be a lightening that attracts itself to men. (well, not that ALL violence doesn't have the same characteristic... but deadly violence has it even more.)
"Michael Snyder" msny...@redhat.com
They might go, but they will only be turned away.
"Michael Snyder" msny...@redhat.com
I have only anecdotes. I heard of a women's shelter that would let women bring in their infant male children only up to age five.
After that, I guess they become "little men".
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
What were they supposed to do with them after? Starve them to death the Catholic Women's Shelter here in Toronto?
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
They are women's shelters, remember? Boys/men need not apply.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
If not have the police called on them.
"Michael Snyder" msny...@redhat.com
Hey, it has happened...
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
Yeah, and the women involved were let off scott free.
Jen Larson stray...@udel.edu
I never said you did you stupid lousy idiot.
cut the rest of the post that I don't feel like explaining to a brick wall.
Jen Larson stray...@udel.edu
That is why I said it dumb-****.
Attitude? There's no attitude in that statement you reading rainbow reject!
Stupid jerk.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
Yeah, and we all know *why* you said it, too.
Of course not.
Silly billy.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
Are you sure?
"Math is hard." Bwahahahaha!
Jennifer Larson stray...@udel.edu
I would venture to say that you don't have a ****ing clue you stupid lying bastard.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
Well, there you go again, Jen. I thought you were finally reforming. Nah, what the hell am I saying!
Jennifer Larson stray...@udel.edu
You want me to reform to accepting other people's ***igned motivations to my own acts of free will - go to fantasy.com and you can reform me in your mind all you want - reality remains as is.
nos ...@spam.com (GodHimself)
You got me all wrong, Jen. I wouldn't want to change your beliefs. After all, if I take your belief that it's all men's fault away from you, you'll have to know that's there's plenty of fault to go around for *all*. And I don't think you could live with that.
angil ...@yinyang.enterprise-plc.com (Angilion)
Jen has certainly plumbed some low depths, but that isn't one of them. As far as I can tell, she is saying that male victims of DV either leave and try and make it without help (i.e. go on their own rather than going to a shelter, since they have none to go to) or they stay and put up with abuse if they can't leave for some reason (protecting their children, for example).
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