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"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
Will anyone post any ideas about crime prevention other than gun ownership control? Or do you consider today's society ideal? If things are bad, go for a change.
Chris Johnson cmjohn...@cfl.rr.com
Crime prevention has to begin with a good environment for children to grow up in.
Most of us are doing the best we can, and the ones who aren't, well, that's where the criminals come from. How do you cure that? I have no simple answer.
You've practically admited that gun ownership IS a valid mechanism for crime prevention. Which it is. Criminals do NOT like their victims to be armed, and that's a simple enough statement that you could be a member of DENSA and still understand it.
CJ
Ted Lang N...@nomail.com
This is the question that will show you why gun control though proven to be useless as an anti crime measure is still being debated.
The answer is so very simple. Just instill a strong since of right and wrong [morality] into every member of society.
Now you see why the weak minded tout gun controls. It will take truly great minds to accomplish the only thing that could end crime [the extinction of the criminal mind]. I'm not that mind but society has in the past been gun free and much more violent than we are now.
Our political leaders and educators just can't admit that they do not have the answers, so they try to frighten us into sacrificing our freedoms for that illusive security. And of course this makes them more powerful. What a coincidence
"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
Of course that is the complete solution. However it is even more Utopian than the complete gun ban. I ask for the practical partial solutions (10% decrease in violent crime rate over the period of 20 years would be a good start), such as the testing I have mentioned.
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"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
No I haven't. Show me where.
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"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
I wrote "gun ownership control". Nothing has been tried for a long enough period (a political mandate of 4 or 5 years is not enough). There are no short term solutions, otherwise we wouldn't hold this debate.
Bill Smith quand...@newsguy.com
Where have you been? The overall crime rate in the US has dropped some 40% over the last ten years. Check out the Uniform Crime Report at FBI.GOV. If the Brady bill accounted for anything the gun crime rate would have dropped faster than other types, didn't happen.
Handguns were outlawed altogether in the UK and the handgun murder rate has doubled since.
Less than .2% of guns in the US are misused in any given year.
Bill Smith
"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
That still makes up for too much crime. Good thing is 99.8% of gun owners have nothing to fear from my proposed testing.
Chris Johnson cmjohn...@cfl.rr.com
Actually, that number is WELL off base. The actual figure is less than one in 8000 guns will be used to commit a crime, and most of those incidents are multiple uses of the same gun. In actuality, only one in about 40,000 guns will ever be used in any crime in any given year, if that. The difference is that the very rare one that is used will, on average, be involved in more than one crime...counting mere possession of the gun in the commission of a crime.
310 million guns DIDN'T get used in a crime today. Or yesterday, or tomorrow.
CJ
jd ...@jdege.visi.com (Jeffrey C. Dege)
True enough - because we will make sure it is never imposed.
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[T]o preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young - Richard Henry Lee
"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
Can you direct me to a web site that publishes this or similar statistics?
"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
In psychology that is referred to as "projecting". Your existence proves that there are people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Your obvious lack of intelectual capacity to form a meaningful sentence is at the least worrying. To remind you, I have p***ed both an IQ test and a psychology test when being recruited at the age of 18.
P.S. Your frustration seems to indicate serious physical shortcomings. I pity you.
"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
How would you act if it is imposed through a democratic procedure? Would you comply?
endlsra ...@aol.combustion (EndlsRayne)
Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms.
http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/165476.txt This one is the famous Lott study of 1996 http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/~llou/guns.html Impact on gun laws & police deaths http://www.terry.uga.edu/~dmustard/police.pdf Gunowners.ord source files http://www.gunowners.org/sourcetb.htm Keep and Bear Arms.com - archive of DGU stories http://keepandbeararms.com/OpSD/
"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
Thanks.
colobor ...@aol.comNRA (Scott Miller)
99.8% of gun owners don't need your testing. How many other Constitutionally protected rights do you want to make the practicing of subjected to p***ing a test?
--Scott Miller "Among other evils which being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised." --Niccolo Machiavelli
colobor ...@aol.comNRA (Scott Miller)
Just a note for readability's sake, Bozo, I mean, Bobo, can you separate your additions to the thread a bit more....?
--Scott Miller "Among other evils which being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised." --Niccolo Machiavelli
"Ynot" Ynot...@hotmail.com
I agree! If we could/should test in order to receive out constitutional rights why can't we even have a 12 year old girl get her parents permission, or have her tested before she has her baby killed, oooops I mean aborted, sorry I meant terminated,,, Damn I meant killed...oh shit......sucked out into a sink.....
If we need testing lets start abortion for anyone under the age of 18....If the feminists will let that fly then I will think about being tested for my second amendment rights!
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"Bobo" ganda...@net4u.hr
Since the beginning of life is at the time of conception, abortion is a homicide. A homicide can only be justified in an act of self-preservation.
Thus an abortion should be legal only if it would prevent a pregnant woman's fatality. Sexual education of the public and free profilactics would reduce the number of unwanted pregnancy cases. In combination with that, the state should take care of all the unwanted pregnancies via adoptions. No test can pronounce you competent to commit a murder (aka the abortion).
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