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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
What is the definition of 'medicine?' How do you define 'the practice of medicine?' And, how does that relate to the practice of 'alternative medicine?' The definition of medicine, which I most agree with comes, from the WordsSmith dictionary. Medicine is defined, by WordsSmith, as: http://www.wordsmyth.net/cgi-bin/simplesearch.cgi?matchent=medicine&m... e=exact&matchid=-1&retall=1 "the science of diagnosing and treating illness, disease, and injury." Definitions which include the term 'prevention' are, in my opinion, a corruption of the authentic original definition of medicine. They are a corruption of the English language by feel good liberals!
So, I figured out long ago that to avoid being charged with 'the practice of medicine' one has to be sure of doing two things: A) Refuse to 'Diagnose'; and B) Refuse to deal with 'illness, disease, and injury.' Part B means that folk like me can legally deal with 'prevention', but NOT in the treatment of diseases like cancer. Anything that remotely relates to 'treatments' or health protocols must specifically deal with either 'prevention' or use the phrase 'minor health condition.' The definition of alternative medicine, which I most agree with comes, from the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.
http://www.bartleby.com/61/21/A0232125.html "A variety of therapeutic or preventive health care practices, ... , that do not follow generally accepted medical methods and may not have a scientific explanation for their effectiveness".
The essence of the term is also conveyed in this definition of 'complementary medicine.' http://www.graylab.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?complementary+medicine "A nonmainstream health care provided in addition or instead of standard medical practice." Hence, the term 'alternative medicine' is an oxymoron. So, any physician who claims to be practicing alternative medicine, is in effect claiming to be practicing something other than medicine.
Hence, my website can be legally and correctly described as an alternative medicine website. :-) So, in effect, if I am correctly described as a practitioner of alternative medicine; I therefore deal with therapeutic practices. And, according to the dictionary the word 'therapeutic' deals with healing. Hence, I have and can continue to refer to myself as a 'Healer.' In fact, use of the term 'Healer' is preferable as it avoids any confusion with the practice of medicine. It also implies use of a method, that MAY be legally without scientific explanation.
And, of course, health related websites should always conclude with a disclaimer that states that you are only a provider of information. Even all physician websites use this disclaimer. :-) Ergo, any 'scientist want-a-be twit' who knocks my lack of so called credentials is only advertising their status as an ignoramus.
Ergo, ... you 'scientist want-a-be twit's are WRONG and way off base for criticizing me.
And, I, hereby, challenge any and all 'scientist want-a-be twit's to prove me wrong.
And, in the future please restrict yourself to the proper terminology. :-)
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"Mike & Heather Collins" mikeheath...@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk
You wrote that you don't claim to be a doctor or to treat patients.
So you : A) Refuse to 'Diagnose'; and B) Refuse to deal with 'illness, disease, and injury Then you say you are a healer. You can't heal someone who is not sick!
I give you a simple definition of medicine: "Healing the sick"
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"Darlene B Gammill" dar...@earthlink.net
a bunch of double talk. you are not a healer, this is ridiculous.
D Gammill MT(ASCP) "John 'the Man'" <De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com> wrote in message ...
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
I am sorry to hear that you have absolutely NO Command of the English language, Nor know anything of substance about Alternative Medicine.
You have my condolences. :-( By the way, Adam of 'Adam & Eve' used double-talk to turn defeat into victory in Genesis 3:20.
I am referring to the Bible as a work of Literature. Here, we read that Adam turned being thrown out of the Garden of Eden by God into a victory by naming his wife Eve, the mother of all things living in Genesis 3:20.
Adam used the Power of the Word directly with God, to take control of the situation. Only fools call the Power of the Word ... Double-Talk. :-( Hey, I am NOT talking to God .. I am talking to the Twits on these ngs!!!
If it worked on God, ... Believe me it will work with Twits. :-)
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
I heal health conditions.
You are NOT sick if you have a Health Condition. An example of a Health Condition would be a high Total Cholesterol count. With a TC of let us say 295 you are NOT sick, ... you are NOT dying, ... Nor do you have Heart Disease or CAD or CVD. You just have a health condition called high cholesterol.
It is really very simple.
And, since I do NOT diagnose. I provide ONLY generic information based on the details given to me by the client. It would be up to the client to disclose to me whether or not they have heart disease, etc., or NOT.
People came to me via ExpertCentral a while back (around 60 to date) when their Doctors have NOT met their needs. :-) Currently, I have very little interest in being a Healer. I have been there and done that. I really don't like dealing with difficult people. :-(
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"Darlene B Gammill" dar...@earthlink.net
it is quite possible that heart disease does exist here "John 'the Man'" <De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com> wrote in message ...
"Darlene B Gammill" dar...@earthlink.net
Sorry, i can speak much more eloquently, but not usually , in these posts. I am not competing here for a literary award. Besides, I am Southern, and we are very casual. I know as much as I want to know about alternative medicine, I do not really believe in it.
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
The points that I was making are pretty simple.
1) The Practice of Medicine has nothing to do with prevention.
2) The Practice of Alternative Medicine has nothing to do with Medicine.
3) There is NO Requirement that Alternative Medicine be based in science.
4) Prevention is a part of Alternative Medicine.
5) My website is cl***ified as Alternative Medicine.
6) You can only provide Information, NOT Medical Advice, on the WEB.
7) My website, like all other websites, provides information, but NEVER medical advice.
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"Kurt Ullman" kurtull...@yahoo.com
"> 3) There is NO Requirement that Alternative Medicine be based in science.
Nice of them to exempt themselves from any need to justify anything they do. Makes life SO much easier. Witchcraft and voodoo.
Kurt (It was MUCH more convincing when the line about nobody wanting to pay for the studies was the cop our du jour) Ullman
"a mountain dew" als...@home.com
what is your opinion on milk and gluten as a cause of ADD(attention deficit disorder)?
i followed some links from your nutrition group to this....
There have been some. On this page I include what I have found: Autistic Spectrum and Diet: http://www.PaleoDiet.com/autism/ ags.
"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
That is NOT, my point!
Words have meanings. And, reality is a two-way street.
The term 'Alternative Medicine' has a specific meaning that is in the dictionary!
The problem with FruitCakes is that THEY do NOT think. They think that the world should be as THEY think that it should be, RATHER than as it actually is. FruitCakes are NOT living in reality.
This is the number one reason that "the medical system has failed" FruitCakes. FruitCakes do NOT deal in reality. :-(
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
ADD is generally ***ociated with children.
My area of interest is mature adults. Children are outside my area of expertise.
Diet is fundamental to health. Hence, there is obviously a link to ADD.
Eating the wrong diet, can easily cause permanent brain damage in children.
Make sure that they are eating foods good for their brain and nervous system.
Sometimes the problem is just that bright children are easily bored.
However, all children become problems when not properly managed. One should NOT give up too quickly on the application of basic parenting skills and good old behavior modification techniques.
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"a mountain dew" als...@home.com
you didn't answer the question! are you afraid of the anti-milk, anti-bread, anti-food colour cartel?
again, what does milk and gluten have to do with ADD?
ADD is only a childhood problem half the time. one must first survive it for it to become an adult problem.
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Dave d...@nospam.com
Hmmm... Alternative to medicine that works?
Dave
"Wyle E. Coyote, M.D." kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com
Actually, medicine is concerned with prevention. That is why doctors recommend good diet, excercise, etc., even before one is sick.
All the best, Wyle http://www.wordsmyth.net/cgi-bin/simplesearch.cgi?matchent=medicine&m...
"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
As basically a person concerned about moral issues, I believe strongly that money is NOT the measure of all things.
One of the things that I plan on doing with my website is to show / prove that Science is NOT the measure of ALL things when it comes to your health.
Quite frankly, ... I think that Allopathic Medicine, and the hordes of Scientist Want-a-Bees on these ngs, are a total joke when it comes to prevention and the essence of health.
In my opinion, your mind is the measure of ALL things, NOT science when it comes to your health. Quite frankly, ... I have yet to address this issue on my website. The first 50 pages of my site covers Science via nutrition and nutritional supplements. The next 50 pages will be devoted to the power of the human mind. The best is yet to come. :-)
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
Obviously, any physician can recommend "good diet, exercise, etc." When they do this they are actually practicing 'Alternative Medicine' rather than Medicine.
True Medicine, has always been concerned about curing the sick and injured.
Prevention is purely a modern after thought.
It may be a small point. But, I am making it. :-)
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
I have no expertise in ADD.
I read about ONLY what I am interested in. I have no interest in children or ADD. Ergo, ... I have no expertise in ADD, or food allergies for that matter.
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"a mountain dew" als...@home.com
i know, that ADD link on your site is stale,
"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
People who rely on Science to guide their lives are fools.
Real Scientists can NOT agree on anything. Real Scientists, for example, can not even agree on the role of fat, and the different kinds of fat, in the diet. Rather than present an unified view of the universe, Science presents nothing but confusion. :-( The British Medical Journal has an online version of their journal which is still free to all. They provide for responses to their published papers.
These responses read like a ng, except that many Real Scientists post messages. The confusion these Real Scientists create should be enough to break the science myth being spread around by Scientist Want-a-Be twits on these ngs. :-) One clear example of this is the subject of Age Related Cognitive Decline.
Outside of Clinical Dementia, the real problem is that older people live their lives in a fog of inner dialogues and daydreams. This fog of mindless thought creates a basic lack of concentration. Short term memory problems are in many cases are purely mental in nature due to the life long accumulation of experiences and living a life full of stress, which younger individuals are simply too young to have experienced.
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Carlos Antunes cantu...@cox.rr.com
I see, people who rely on objective knowledge to guide their lives are fools. Those who rely on superstition and gut feelings are the smart ones. Personally, I'll continue to be a fool.
Regards, Carlos Antunes.
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
Thank you for illustrating my point!
You obviously did NOT read my post.
You replied to what you thought that I had written. But, NOT to what I actually wrote. How typical? Scientists are good at talking the talk. But, the facts are that Scientists can NOT walk the walk. :-( Is it no wonder that scientists like you can NOT agree on anything simple when it comes to health. Recent published studies do in fact contradict each other. The facts are that Science does NOT provide a unified view of the Health Universe. :-( I can show you studies that say SFA causes CHD. I can show you studies that say SFA does NOT cause CHD. I can show you studies that say that it is more important to increase UFA than to reduce SFA in your diet. And, I can show you studies that prove no such thing.
Clearly, a person has to resort to Voodoo or something other than Science to make decisions about their health. Because Science does NOT in fact provide a unified view of the Health Universe. :-( Yeah Bud, ... I think you are suffering from an obvious lack of mental focus. :-(
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Carlos Antunes cantu...@cox.rr.com
This means you don't understand how Science works, that is all! I'll leave you with a quote for your consideration: "Religion claims certainty, but provides no evidence. Science provides testable evidence and claims no certainty." -- A. Montague It doesn't have to! Science is about obtaining objective knowledge.
There is no sure proof way to do that. That's why the Scientific Method includes in itself the means to dismiss previous conclusions when that's appropriate. If you want certainty, you need to move to a different Universe.
And I think you obviously have no clue what you are talking about.
That's characteristic of delusional people.
Regards, Carlos Antunes.
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
A much better reply, ... this time. :-) I do NOT need to make Science into a religion. I just think that if Science was really as great as all the HYPE, ... then the Practitioners of Science would: 1)Know what the Hell they are doing; 2)Stop Screwing around, and 3)Conduct proper studies that actually clarify rather than add to the confusion.
The facts are that Science is just as likely to add confusion, than it is to clarify.
Ergo, ... Science along ain't enough. :-) I don't need certainty, ... The advocates of Science do!
I take vitamins, inspite of, NOT because of ALL the negative findings.
Some Scientists agree with me, some obviously do NOT.
Ergo, ... Science is of little practical use in resolving the matter for mortal man.
If I had No Clue as to what I was talking about, you would NOT have responded in this manner. On the contrary, my comments were right on target. ... As usual. :-)
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"John 'the Man'" De...@NaturalHealthPerspective.com
Scientists are good at Talking the Talk, but they can NOT Walk the Walk!
When Scientists Talk the Talk, they try to turn Science into a religion.
But, when Scientists try to Walk the Walk, they fall flat on their face. :-( Recent published medical research studies clearly contradict each. You can find research that will support any position that you may care to take.
There is no steady progression of knowledge, rather the findings of published medical research clearly tends to go in circles.
And, the holiest of the holy in the religion of science, medical research journals have clearly gone tabloid. They appear to be more interested in making money and promoting their entertainment value, than in a steady progressive search for the truth.
In short, Science sounds good in theory; but falls short on performance.
If Science was a drug, the FDA would NOT approve it!
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