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"Phineas Fogg" noca...@idontthinkso.net

The purpose of this forum is not to serve the Scientology's anti-psychiatry agenda, but to debate Scientology.  But you Scientologists don't get it, or more precisely,  you don't care, and you will do anything to serve your agenda.
You are not winning any friends around here.
Phineas Fogg

"Magoo" mago...@worldnet.att.net

Good point, Phineas!
I remember this drill, well: Use psychiatry to distract people.
That's all it is. Filler.
Just something to "hopefully" get people OFF of Scientology, and onto other debates.
As you said, They aren't making friends there. Their excuse...
They wouldn't be no matter what they say, so may as well slam the psych's.
The truth? Sure they could.....if they would do as their master said and "Get honest and straight".
But even that is too much for them.
They are on a mission....almost a duplicate of the G.O. But they refuse to look at the stats, and compare themselves.
Know it all's?
Perhaps.
What IS someone who just keeps doing something even though many request they stop?
Phineas said it best: Tory/Magoo!

JLHartley JLHartley_mem...@newsguy.com

Excellent questions.
The answers, alas, are just one: The line is whereever the diagnosing psych says it is -- and usually that is anything this side of comatose.

JLHartley JLHartley_mem...@newsguy.com

This is a very condemnatory quote on the current outrageous practice of drugging kids on a wholesale basis. Quotes like this of course won't win any friends amongst psych promoters and apologists.
In article <3c2628f...@news2.lightlink.com>, "Phineas says...

JLHartley JLHartley_mem...@newsguy.com

It has been proven over and over again that no objective criteria exist for the diagnosis of ADHD or even that such a 'disorder' even exists. Still, they continue dispensing the drugs. This needs to stop. Now.
In article <N7CX7.315496$W8.11839...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Magoo" says...

ma ...@mweb.co.za (Marc)

Do you guys really only believe the detractors of ADHD?  Have you ever bothered to talk to the parents of an ADHD child or adult?  My wife is a pre-primary teacher.  In a cl*** of twenty two children there is only one on ritalin, and that was after the psychiatrist had first tried referring the child for occupational therapy, physiotherapy and then a homeopathic remedy.  the child went from having no friends, an inability to concentrate or sit in a ring and behind in all developmental milestones, to being a well integrated child with the ability to interact and catching up on virtually all milestones within six months.  By no means was the child turned into a zombie or drugged into a compliant state, he actually remained one of the most outgoing children in the group.
As for diagnosis in adults I have a friend whi was only diagnosed a few years ago.  Since being on ritalin he has been able to complete a post graduate degree he was stalled on, improve his work performance and his wife is much happier with his ability to interact with her and the kids.
Regards Marc Lipshitz

jim ...@aol.com (JimDBB)

Good post, Marc.  But the mind dead rondroids don't want to hear this information.  The CCHR morons will hunt you down and expose you for the suprressive person that you are.
The Church of Scientology and its front group, the CCHR is working very hard with it subversive activities to malign and discredit the Novartis Co. and its Ritalin and related products.  They are having trouble peddling their lies and distortions though as so many people, adults and children, have been dramatically helped.
JImdbb

JLHartley JLHartley_mem...@newsguy.com

Speaking for myself, yes.
 Have you ever Yes.
 My wife is Different people react differently to drugs. Also some schools, teachers, parents, etc. are more responsible than others in exploring alternatives. This, however, doesn't excuse those who aren't. Nor does it mean that the drug isn't being seriously misused.

dilbertperk ...@aol.com (DilbertPerkins)

To those new to ARS: The previous message is known as a PSYCH POST. It was composed and posted by Scientologists in an effort to 1) divert attention from posts critical of Scientology, and 2) defame the mental health profession (which Scientology views as competition).
There are currently only a few posters of these PSYCH POSTS. If you wish to continue reading ARS without being bothered by articles of this nature, simply paste the poster's email address(es) in your newsgroup reader's filter preferences.

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