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Marlene Blanshay blans...@videotron.ca
I caught a few minutes of "the biggest loser", and from what i gathered, there was a couple who were trying to get in shape. The husband went to a bike shop (in Portland OR) and bought himself a road bike- it was obviously a specialized even though they blurred out the name (the logo was still visible on the stem). Then, the wife is all depressed because now she works out alone. The guy is talking about how he wants to get in shape... in the meantime, there he is riding his bike, no gloves, wearing sneakers, and street clothes. He's not going to be doing very long rides dressed like that! As for the wife, i felt like telling her, stop bawling, and get a bike!
"Roger Zoul" rogerzo...@hotmail.com
:: I caught a few minutes of "the biggest loser", and from what i :: gathered, there was a couple who were trying to get in shape. The :: husband went to a bike shop (in Portland OR) and bought himself a :: road bike- it was obviously a specialized even though they blurred :: out the name (the logo was still visible on the stem). Then, the :: wife is all depressed because now she works out alone. The guy is :: talking about how he wants to get in shape... in the meantime, there :: he is riding his bike, no gloves, wearing sneakers, and street :: clothes. He's not going to be doing very long rides dressed like :: that! As for the wife, i felt like telling her, stop bawling, and :: get a bike!
He might be doing 10 miles every day. Of course, he should have gotten a mountain bike with knoby tires to do those 10-mile road trips. That woud burn some calories.
"gds" gary_j...@msn.com
<snip> there you go dissing the transportaional cyclists ;-)
"cycle-one" l-o-c-...@hotmail.com
I dislike pretty much all 'reality' shows. They are either degrading to people as a species or simply stupid. This one however I don't mind so much.
I still don't watch it except for the last few minutes if I'm watching the next show on that channel - just dislike the genre. But it is such a positive show; helping people directly and indirectly confront the biggest health issue of the era. Compare that to the degrading 'Fear Factor' and there is no comparison.
But one thing I wonder about from my own experience: After an initial weight loss [nothing like the amounts of the people on the show] I started gaining weight. My doctor dismissed any sort of concerns I had. I was replacing lighter fat with denser muscle. My weight started to increase but my physical condition was improving.
Regarding the show I wonder about focusing on raw poundage rather than body fat and general fitness. The boilerplate cautions that all contestants are under the care and supervision of qualified medical, nutritional and physio professionals. I'm sure the contestants are not in danger but using just weight loss as the determining factor seems like a bad meter.
Rich richa_color...@yahoo.com
The last few summers I regularly took 25 mile rides in sneakers, regular shorts, and a tee shirt.
Rich
andy gee andy...@GETRIDOFTHISinterport.net
You are, of course, correct. The correct measures of "overweight" are body fat percentage and fat distribution. Weight and height are used to calculate BMI (body m*** index) which is only a "pretty good" estimator of body fat percentage.
Speaking as a five year lifetime member of weightwatchers and an avid cyclist, the big question basically boils down to "what size pants am I wearing?"
--ag
andy gee andy...@GETRIDOFTHISinterport.net
Thanks for beating me to the punch. I get in about 15 miles a day in civvies, but _with_ a helmet and gloves.
--ag
"cycle-one" l-o-c-...@hotmail.com
Funny thing. I used to have an old pair of shorts I used for swimming. At the beginning they were a little tight around the waist and lose in the legs. Well by the time I threw them out they were lose around the waist and tight in the legs. All that pedalling did a number on my upper leg muscles.
"Roger Zoul" rogerzo...@hotmail.com
:: "Marlene Blanshay" <blans...@videotron.ca> wrote in message :: ...
::: I caught a few minutes of "the biggest loser", and from what i ::: gathered, there was a couple who were trying to get in shape. The ::: husband went to a bike shop (in Portland OR) and bought himself a ::: road bike- it was obviously a specialized even though they blurred ::: out the name (the logo was still visible on the stem). Then, the ::: wife is all depressed because now she works out alone. The guy is ::: talking about how he wants to get in shape... in the meantime, ::: there he is riding his bike, no gloves, wearing sneakers, and ::: street clothes. He's not going to be doing very long rides dressed ::: like that! As for the wife, i felt like telling her, stop bawling, ::: and get a bike!
:: :: I dislike pretty much all 'reality' shows. They are either degrading :: to people as a species or simply stupid. This one however I don't :: mind so much. I still don't watch it except for the last few minutes :: if I'm watching the next show on that channel - just dislike the :: genre. But it is such a positive show; helping people directly and :: indirectly confront the biggest health issue of the era. Compare :: that to the degrading 'Fear Factor' and there is no comparison.
:: :: But one thing I wonder about from my own experience: After an initial :: weight loss [nothing like the amounts of the people on the show] I :: started gaining weight. My doctor dismissed any sort of concerns I :: had. I was replacing lighter fat with denser muscle. My weight :: started to increase but my physical condition was improving.
:: :: Regarding the show I wonder about focusing on raw poundage rather :: than body fat and general fitness. The boilerplate cautions that all :: contestants are under the care and supervision of qualified medical, :: nutritional and physio professionals. I'm sure the contestants are :: not in danger but using just weight loss as the determining factor :: seems like a bad meter.
When you're really fat, scale weight is sufficient. Once you get down to human weights, then it's more important to think about body composition and things like LBM vs Fat %.
"Bill H." bill...@gmail.com
Well, it's a start. I didn't buy any special clothes when I started cycling, and got by wearing whatever I had on for the day. I got a good workout, too. If this guy has been sedentary for a long time, he can probably get a good workout riding for twenty minutes at 10-12 mph.
"cycle-one" l-o-c-...@hotmail.com
I go with loose fitting simple nylon/polyester [name brand deleted] shorts and either cotton or nylon T-shirts. But in the _summer_ I dress less heavily. ;-) Seriously in winter I just try to layer with a nylon shell on the outside.
To each his or her own but I've never found the tight fit of bike specific clothing comfortable.
"gds" gary_j...@msn.com
Yep. I now "enjoy" cycling specific clothing but do remember a time of life where I had jeans and cut off jeans. They served for all sand lot sports and cycling. I actually did a 1000 mile tour in 11 days in jeans and cut offs. I was much younger and resiliant then;-)
tkeats2 ...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
One thing about true, lycra cycling shorts is, they're resilient.
My riding has worn a bunch of holes in cut-offs and MTB shorts that have been outlived several times over by my "real" cycling shorts.
But at least cut-offs are cheap and easily replaced.
And we can cut them to the lengths we want.
And they have pockets.
cheers, Tom
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Preston Crawford m...@prestoncrawford.com
That's not what bothered me the most. What bothered me was her overall attitude. "We're going to go get skinny!" Like that's the only way for a human being to get skinny. To go onto a reality TV show and have a personal trainer take over your life for a few weeks.
I mean, maybe that kind of boot camp approach is what more Americans need, but still it's kind of sad.
You never know. When I lost 170lbs. (although I've gained back 40 in the last 3 years) a few years back I did it in one year, wearing toe clips, a track suit (i.e. not rain resistent) in Portland, mind you, and all cotton clothing. I was hypothermia waiting to happen. Yet I rode eventually up to 35 miles a day and shed the weight. So great things start modestly often. I bought a Trek 4300 mountain bike ($300) and my wife said to me "You'd better ride it" (she details some of that on her site http://www.speedleopard.com) and ride it I did. Into the GROUND!
So, you never know.
Preston
Preston Crawford m...@prestoncrawford.com
Sometimes I think I was better off when I didn't have "gear". I still really don't have "gear" in the pure sense. I have clipless pedals. I have a computer, HRM and a road bike and some wicking T-Shirts as well as some rain gear. But I lost most of my weight in the cotton and polyester. So.... I don't know.
Preston
Preston Crawford m...@prestoncrawford.com
I agree. This worries me too. Mostly from the standpoint of what the average viewer at home is "taking home" from these lessons. My wife has last 150lbs. but only 6 last year. However, she got a personal trainer, started doing weight training and lost like 6 sizes. She's much leaner, much stronger and arguably in much better shape physically, but down only 6lbs. And even SHE, with all that she knows, sometimes worries about the numbers. That she's not losing, etc. I just try to remind her that that isn't the most important thing. Sure, losing weight helps.
Someone could lose weight eating sprouts and rice cakes, but that doesn't make them healthy.
Preston
frkry ...@gmail.com
The important part is the part up to the first comma. The rest is details, fashion, and personal opinion. He deserves congratulations for riding.
- Frank Krygowski
big ...@backpacker.com
The man with the blond girl did seem to muscle up more than the other guy. It hurt me to see the guy on the road bike dressed like a fred.
"gooserider" gooseri...@mousepotato.com
I hope his shop fit him with comfort in mind.
Ken M kenc...@netzero.net
A bike shop that actually fits the bike to the rider? I think that is a myth.
Ken
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Preston Crawford m...@prestoncrawford.com
Exactly. I can *pay* to have a very good fit done by the Bike Gallery here in Portland. And they do an excellent job. But I've never met a bike shop that does a good job of that for free. Heck, most of the time they'll send you out the door with the wrong sized bike.
Preston
Marlene Blanshay blans...@videotron.ca
LOL... i was thinking more of it being uncomfortable rather than stylish. Wear what the hell you want, but a long ride with no padding.... yowch.
Marlene Blanshay blans...@videotron.ca
so true... i don't have a weight problem but since i started cycling, my pant size has dropped (Dropped pants!) It burns fat on your hips and thighs and so my pants were all loose. Cycling is great that way- if you r councern is waist size, then it's the sport for you.
Marlene Blanshay blans...@videotron.ca
yeah totally... at least the guy got a bike. I was thinking great! But i was really thinking how i'd be pretty uncomfortable without padding and gloves. I know people who wear no gloves, but i couldn't go without.
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