Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
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"mark lewis" mark...@sympatico.ca
I wonder if anyone knows of a script I can access for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
I would like to help one of my employees who has this.
I just need a script. I have been doing hypnosis for many years.
Milo Minderbinder catc...@minderbinder.com
Regress to cause.
Obtain learnings.
Eliminate undesired behavior.
Ask what employee would like to do with extra time to replace behaviors done during OC behavior and install.
Other possibility: work the time line.
Milo
mstrhy ...@earthlink.net (Lee Darrow)
Mark, in a short phrase - bad idea. Here's why - psychological disorders such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder are considered areas that are reserved for those who have a license to practice psychology or psychiatry after their names. The laws in the US, Canada, the U.K.
and every other western country are pretty specific about this and the legal punishments for those who practice psychology or psychiatry without a license can run from bad to severe.
I would strongly suggest that you refer your employee to a licensed professional instead of possibly opening yourself to prosecution. The fines and jail time are simply not worth it. Not to mention that even with your years of experience, you do really not have the experience in dealing with this specific disorder, as shown by your post.
No flame - just a friendly word of advice from a fellow practitioner.
Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
"Ray Gordon" r...@cybersheet.com
Just follow the behavior of those on this group who have it towards me and I'm sure you'll acquire OCD in no time flat!
"HeeroYuy" h...@h.h
Obsession and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder are two completely different mental disorders.
"mark lewis" mark...@sympatico.ca
Thank you all very much.
Now does anyone have an actual script?
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mstrhy ...@earthlink.net (Lee Darrow)
You obviously have NO experience or training to deal with such a complex and highly variable disorder as evinced by your request for a canned script. As Milton Erickson said, each person is an individual and have to be treated as such, whether medicaly or hypnotically. You may well be a fine stage hypnotist, but you have a LONG way to go before you can tackle something as psychologically complex as OCD.
Mess up in the therapeutic setting and you could set your friend's work to recover back YEARS.
Refer your friend to a licensed pro and stay out of jail. You will be doing yourself AND your friend a favor.
Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
"mark lewis" mark...@sympatico.ca
I did read what you say, Lee and I respectfully disagree with you.
There is utterly no possibility of me going to jail or getting into trouble of any sort.
I believe that "hypnosis" is connected to OCD in the first place. That is why people react to suggestions.
"hypnosis" is a myth anyway and cannot be dangerous because it doesn't exist in the first place.
And all the psychological twaddle that is out there is mythical too. That is why I do not believe in all the complicated therapy courses which sound terribly intellectual but are really full of gobbly gook.
To be a therapist all you need are canned scripts and street wise common sense. This may horrify most of you who have studied this twaddle for years.
I have always said that it is the psychiatrists and psychologists who are madder than their patients.
And here is the trump card in my argument. I have used hypnosis before for this problem and it worked. It is just that I mislaid the bloody script and am looking for another one.
What works-works.
I have no time to discuss the matter and since it is obvious that no script is forthcoming I shall look elsewhere. In the meantime you will all have to discuss the matter among yourselves.
You mean well, Lee and I thank you.
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mstrhy ...@earthlink.net (Lee Darrow)
Mark, with all due respect, whether you believe in the reality of hypnosis or not will not effect in any way what will happen in a court of law if you are tried for practicing psychology without a license.
On your own head be it.
As to the reality of hypnosis or not, you might want to take a look at some of the latest brain scan work that's been done on hypnosis. It seems that there IS a way to define the hypnotic state using the latest medical scanning technology. I'll try to find the references, but I'm off to do a show for a bunch of college kids right now...
Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
t ...@terencewatts.com (Terence Watts)
After many thousands of client hours since 1989, I feel that hypnosis is not the best way to treat OCD; there is a real risk, if you manage to stop the behaviour pattern, that a substitute symptom will replace it - and there is no way of knowing what the s/c will alight upon.
The most reliable way forward with this illness appears to be one of the forms of Cognitive work, or one of the styles of PARTS work.
Only my opinion of course, and it's a LONG time since I voiced it in this forum ;-) Terence Watts
John Michaels hpno...@sbcglobal.net
Welcome back. Good to see you posting. Wow, you and Wendi on the same day. It is a good day in alt.hypnosis.
mdra ...@hotmail.com (Michael R)
First this, then your little projection-laden tirade at Compu-Pikachu.
What's up, Ray, did you OD on irony supplements?
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mstrhy ...@earthlink.net (Lee Darrow)
Well said, Terrance! OCD does seem to be one of the few disorders where symptom substitution is more likely to happen - and, when I was working with a licensed mental health professional several years back, was the one where the substitute symptoms were often even more debilitating to the sufferer than the original problem behavior(s).
Welcome back! It's good to see you back in here!
Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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