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fresn ...@yahoo.com (Peter)

Hi all, I was wondering if dyslexia affects speech and listening comprehension? Or is it all about reading?
Thanx, Peter

rwex ...@tias.com (Ronnie Wexler)

My sister in law is very dyslexic. When she was a child, she'd scream every time her Dad tried to read to her - she just couldn't get the gist of the story.  She's better now, but would prefer to read herself (or read to her sons), rather than have someone read to her.  I think it depends on the person.
Ronnie In article <e80bbf48.0203241418.536f5...@posting.google.com>,
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"Frank" wgcuhdh...@kkokzknipdimhgpt.com

^ I was wondering if dyslexia affects speech and listening ^ comprehension? Or is it all about reading?
No one knows enough about dyslexia to answer that accurately but I think that the inclusion of the word "comprehension" is too extreme and that "interpretation" would be more accurate. I personally suspect that dyslexia is only the most apparent aspect of a general difference in language processing abilities, since reading is the least practiced of the four (reading, writing, listening, and speaking).
Frank

"Frank" zvkqfbc...@asiepbftzdqukkcz.com

Frank <01c1d3a4$aac21d30$0125250a@kkokzknipdimhgpt>...
^ ... since reading is the least practiced of the four ^ (reading, writing, listening, and speaking).
Actually, I think writing would be the least practiced skill for most people. But while listening and speaking utilize a verbal language, reading and writing utilize a written language. I doubt there are many people with a reading difficulty that do not also have a greater difficulty with writing.
Frank

"n.deline" n.del...@hotmail.com

It affects everything along with the emotions and entire personality of the Dyslexic Some find reading difficult Some spelling some Maths Some comprehension Some writing essays Some have phonic problems It all depends which area of the brain is affected

"Mark Lang" markremove_t...@wlang.freeserve.co.uk

Hi, people.  The Scots language (Scotland) or (Ulster) (UK) was/were "spoken" and "written"for many years, I, as a Scot do not know how to spell many Scots words.  But that was because (WE) were told that Scots words were less polite than many English words.  I, as a dyslexic, as a Scot, can read well in English.  Scots or  Burns(The Bards) poems, I can understand as well.  But those words I understand, in scots(reading) I can not say.
La...@globalnet.co.uk (old address)

"Frank" vxlthxc...@ojjpajoowsbrdsil.com

^ But those words I understand, in scots(reading) I can not say.
That's interesting. Is that because the language is rarely spoken anymore?
Frank

"Mark Lang" markremove_t...@wlang.freeserve.co.uk

From my experience Scots in one form or another, is spoken by many people, but only in certain circumstances(at home, socialising).  It, as I remember was discouraged in schools for day to day conversations, were standard English was preferred.  So children do not get to hear Scots as much at a time when they are most likely to learn. So speaking Scots I think has declined.  As a result, many people who can speak Scots do not at formal occasions or in the work place.   Paradoxically I do remember being encouraged to read Scottish literature so, I can read and understand the words but can not necessarily translate them into speech.

"Ann" m...@clara.co.uk

Have you never watched 'Dotaman' - is it still on?
Ann

"Mark Lang" markremove_t...@wlang.freeserve.co.uk

Yes, I think there is something similar still running,  don't know if it's the same thing though.

Thelma Good the...@good1.demon.co.uk

An added complication is that unlike English there no standard written Scots the spelling varies quite a lot, regionally and depending on what conventions the individual writer uses. Perhaps it should mean that we dyslexics would do well in Scots as there's no standard spelling!
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Thelma Good : the...@good1.demon.co.uk I am dyslexic and therefore a creative speller!

Ted tedrosenb...@iname.com

I would think that writing in scots would be an advantage Since there is no standard spelling, WHATEVER we use would be correct.

abig ...@dyslexia.com (Abigail Marshall)

Sometimes, though not always.  Dyslexics can have problem with word retrieval and overall slowness with language processing -- kind of a disconnect between hearing a word and registering meaning, or between thinking of what to say and being able to come up with the word.
Sometimes phonemic issues can also be reflected in speech, so the dyslexic person might be prone to pronounce words with the sounds out of order, like saying "pasgetti" instead of "spaghetti".  These issues can also be early warning signs of dyslexia in young children, before they are reading age.   The speech issues are a reason why many people believe that George W.
Bush is dyslexic, as he definitely has the word retrieval problem along with the tendency to mix up syllables in the words.   Dyslexia is now generally viewed as a language processing issue, with speech/listening being one aspect.  It probably becomes more apparent when the dyslexic person starts to try to learn a second language, an extremely difficult task for many.
The word retrieval and difficulty sequencing the sounds of language are probably at the root of a lot of the writing and spelling problems that are characteristic of dyslexia.
However, some dyslexic people are very articulate and rely heavily on listening skills to compensate for poor reading skills.  
-Abigail Marshall Davis Dyslexia ***n. Webmaster http://www.dyslexia.com/

Ted tedrosenb...@iname.com

Well the Davis crew is at it again - anything to sell their stuff NO, if you have general language and comprehension problems, you are NOT DYSLEXIC.  You can only be dyslexic if you have reading and writing skills which are significantly (usually meaning two standard deviations) worse than your verbal/listning skills, and have no physical or emotional problems which would account for it.
If you are BLIND - you aren't dyslexic If you can't speak - you aren't dyslexic If you are retarded - you aren't dyslexic If you WON'T read - you aren't dyslexic Unless your general language and comprehension skills are MUCH BETTER than your reading/writing skills - you aren't dyslexic

"Frank" suffaon...@tvqvjpwqfnsrhqyk.com

^ NO, if you have general language and comprehension problems, you are NOT ^ DYSLEXIC.  You can only be dyslexic if you have reading and writing ^ skills which are significantly (usually meaning two standard deviations) ^ worse than your verbal/listning skills, and have no physical or ^ emotional problems which would account for it.
We weren't referring to the legal definition Ted, which I'm sure that you must be superbly versed in. We were discussing the practical and possibly the more psychologically accurate usage of the word.
Frank

"Frank" suffaon...@tvqvjpwqfnsrhqyk.com

^ If you are BLIND - you aren't dyslexic Not true. If you are blind you could also possibly be dyslexic.
^ If you can't speak - you aren't dyslexic Not true. If you are mute you could also possibly be dyslexic.
^ If you are retarded - you aren't dyslexic Not true. If you are retarded you could also possibly be dyslexic.
^ If you WON'T read - you aren't dyslexic Not true. If you refuse to read you could also possibly be dyslexic.
^ Unless your general language and comprehension skills are MUCH BETTER ^ than your reading/writing skills - you aren't dyslexic Not true. If your general language and comprehension skills are equally as bad as your reading/writing skills, you could also possibly be dyslexic.
Frank

"Larry" n...@larry-arnold.com

Ted Ted Ted are you inferring that because I have other language problems I cannot be dyslexic as well. ?
I wa recently retested for dyslexia (and nothing else) and it seems I am still dyslexic never mind anything else
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Larry L'autisme c'est moi "Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not believe in the laws of mathematics" ...

"Frank" uirmnns...@lgspfktxwlkibmcd.com

^ Well the Davis crew is at it again - anything to sell their stuff And Davis deserves a free plug for that insult.
Everyone who hasn't already, please take a look at the Davis Dyslexia ***n.
<http://www.dyslexia.com/>; their procedures really do help dyslexics. I think AudiBlox <http://www.audiblox2000.com/> may be the best thing available but I haven't tried either.
Frank

abig ...@dyslexia.com (Abigail Marshall)

Actually, the information I posted is the same as is generally disseminated by the major dyslexia organizations throughout the world, including International Dyslexia ***ociation (formerly Orton Dyslexia Society), see: Common Signs of Dyslexia: http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=96 (You will note inclusion of math & verbal issues, organizational problems, etc., among signs and symptoms).
British Dyslexia ***ociation, What is Dyslexia?
http://www.bda-dyslexia.org.uk/d02adult/a01what.htm Ted's limited view of dyslexia seems to be somewhat unique; or perhaps out-moded might be the word.  It doesn't reflect the current view of ANY major dyslexia ***ociation.  
-Abigail Marshall Davis Dyslexia ***n Webmaster http://www.dyslexia.com/

Ted tedrosenb...@iname.com

a standard Davis disinformation post No such link The REAL IDA definition is: http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=87 "Dyslexia is manifest by variable difficulty with different forms of language, often including, in addition to problems reading, a conspicuous problem  with acquiring proficiency in writing and spelling." Which makes it clear that they are pointing out that, while the "cl***ic" definition of dyslexia is READING, it includes writing and spelling.
OH ? in your imagination.
what it ACTUALLY says is: " It is a difference in the brain area that deals with language.
     It affects the under-lying skills that are needed for learning      to read, write and spell." READ WRITE AND SPELL  ONLY  READ WRITE AND SPELL !
Yea, unlike the Davis frauds, I stick to facts Abigail is PAID to sell books, and is NOT here out of any altruism.

abig ...@dyslexia.com (Abigail Marshall)

That is the correct link and it works correctly for me - try cutting and pasting it into your browser, make sure there are no extra spaces.
http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=96 Common Signs of Dyslexia: Then use the links given for different age groups, eg.
Preschool Children, http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=40 May talk later than most children.
                            May have difficulty pronouncing words,                             i.e., "busgetti" for "spaghetti", "mawn                             lower" for "lawn mower".
                            May be slow to add new vocabulary words.
                            May be unable to recall the right word.
                            May have difficulty with rhyming.
                            May have trouble learning the alphabet,                             numbers, days of the week, colors, shapes,                             how to spell and write his or her name.
                            May be unable to follow multi-step                             directions or routines.
                            Fine motor skills may develop more slowly                             than in other children.
                            May have difficulty telling and/or retelling                             a story in the correct sequence.
K-4th Grade, http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=41 May be slow to learn the connection                             between letters and sounds.
                            Has difficulty decoding single words                             (reading single words in isolation).
                            Has difficulty spelling phonetically.
                            Makes consistent reading and spelling                             errors such as:                                  Letter reversals - "d" for "b" as                                  in: "dog" for "bog"                                  Word reversals - "tip" for "pit"                                  Inversions - "m" for "w," "u" for                                  "n"                                  Transpositions - "felt" for "left"                                  Substitutions - "house" for                                  "home"                             May confuse small words - "at" for "to,"                             "said" for "and," "does" for "goes."                             Relies on guessing and context.
                            May have difficulty learning new                             vocabulary.
                            May transpose number sequences and                             confuse arithmetic signs (+ - x / =).
                            May have trouble remembering facts.
                            May be slow to learn new skills; relies                             heavily on memorizing without                             understanding.
                            May have difficulty planning,                             organizing and managing time,                             materials and tasks.
                            Often uses an awkward pencil grip (fist,                             thumb hooked over fingers, etc.).
                            May have poor "fine motor"                             coordination.
And so on.....
-Abigail

Ted tedrosenb...@iname.com

<snip> STILL no such link, and the DEFINITION of DYSLEXIA was the link I gave you can shovel all the crap you want, but dyslexia is STILL READING AND WRITING NOTHING ELSE

jmsfro ...@webtv.net (j-m Stewart)

Are Speech and Listening Comprehension Affected?   From the informatin below listening comprehension is affected by dyslexia .
Children need to hear quick changes in phonemes. Dyslexics have a problem wtih this.
 eg. "p" and "a" in "pa"   The p and a are separated by 10 milliseconds but through testing of dyslexic children it was found that they need 80 milliseconds to make an adequate separation.
   Rutgers university and university of California wo identfied this problem  developed a CD-ROM game which when used 5 days a week 3 hours day for one month was  was very successful in letting dyslexic children reducing this 80 mill.requirement  to the normal 10 mill. This test was done throughout the USA.
  this game was later commercialized  and it was given further deveopment.
    The name of the commercial CD-ROM game is "Fastforward"      I know from personal experience that I am slow to process oral language. I fill in the gaps but when I repeat what was said I am often told that I didn;t get the information correct.
     This information came from an exellent book  "A  Users Guide to the Brain"   by John J. Ratey, M.D         Stewart

"Frank" rkoohft...@qsdbqcuvblehorcw.com

^ > http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=96 ^ http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=87 Another JavaScript nightmare. Without using JavaScript I get the same URL as the both of you, minus the last parameter <http://interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5>. Because they are using JavaScript their main index is completely blank on my web browser. Anyone using JavaScript for web content deserves the problems they get.
Frank

"Larry" n...@larry-arnold.com

Thank goodness I do not have a straight dyslexia dx then as all my other difficulties would be ignored for reasons of pedantic traditionalism.
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Larry L'autisme c'est moi "Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not believe in the laws of mathematics" ...