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"Varizo.." var...@yahoo.com.sg
It was on the radio in the week that exsaminers in skools hav got to acsept txt message replys , like if they had to say somthing like *to be or not to be* , the exsaminers would hav to acsept it as *2b or not 2b* and that the asnwer was still right. They hav realised at last that ppl who use txt words r not thick , but its the ppl who cant understand it that r thick, they should learn to keep up and be taught wot it means, insted of creating a great big fuss and trying to stop ppl from writing wot feels most confortabal to them!
V.
"Shiflet" rshif...@charter.net
Maybe in whatever shitty area you live in, but not here.
thecoven ...@ntlworld.com
Damn right!
It's a blatant disregard for common sense, and a basic laziness that's overcome the youth of today.
If you can't read & write plain English, then you won't get far in this world.
"Beno?®t Meulle-Stef" bmsguitarsNOSP...@biz.tiscali.be
Even with Spanish and French? :-) Ben <thecoven...@ntlworld.com> a ?©crit dans le message de news: 1162630850.075522.165...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
"Lori Pierce" LPIE...@wi.rr.com
Ahhhh the dumbing down of society.......
"Lori Pierce" LPIE...@wi.rr.com
You have a point there! Perhaps it would have been better to say that if you can't read and write correctly, then you won't get far in this world.
"H Duffy" hester_du...@nospam.hotmail.com
Fortunately, it's not being accepted without a fight; http://www.24dash.com/education/12440.htm We _really_ need to improve the quality of basic English grammar and spelling in our schools; I'm marking undergraduate essays and lab reports where some of the students literally don't know ho to use full stops; this can make it really hard to understand what they're trying to say, and prevents them from expressing themselves clearly. This is a real shame for some of them, who are obviously bright, but struggle to use their intelligence.
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"Beno?®t Meulle-Stef" bmsguitarsNOSP...@biz.tiscali.be
And if you ask them how many books they reed a year...
Cheers Ben "H Duffy" <hester_du...@nospam.hotmail.com> a ?©crit dans le message de news: 4r3lpmFp03r...@individual.net...
Dag dagw...@gmail.com
But only to a point. I'd venture that basically no matter where you live that you will (on average) get less far these days if you can't read and write (and speak) English. I also venture that the importance of English is growing.
Dag
Dag dagw...@gmail.com
I don't understand how people can't see that they are not doing anybody any favours by lowering standards and letting substandard work p***.
Sure these kids will p*** their GCSEs and A-Levels with a lot less work and even get into university, but then what? In the real world presentation matters. And if you didn't learn it school when will you?
School should be about learning and improving, not just p***ing exams.
Personally I'm very grateful my teachers in England when I did my GCSEs har***ed the **** out of me about my spelling. Sure they could have gone, well he's obviously smart and knows the stuff and he is foreign so why not let his spelling slide. But to their credit they didn't. They went at me about it over and over again, even making me get extra tutoring, until it reached an acceptable level. And even though it annoyed me at the time I am very glad they did.
Dag
"erithromycin" erithromy...@ananzi.co.za
[snip varizo] I am a third year student at a major Scottish university and the other week I had a lesson in which a) the use of the apostrophe was explained to us, and b) we were told that it was based on the saying "John Smith has farm". I objected to both of those. There are two rules. The apostrophe indicates removed letters, and, with 's', denotes possession. The first rule takes precedence in similar cases, such that "it is" becomes "it's" while the possessive form of "it" is "its" to avoid confusion. Not that I don't mix them up, but there are rules there. Even possessive forms of words ending in 's' follow this rule - when I say these are the ducks' eggs the apostrophe shows possession, but first indicates that there is a letter missing (the 's'). At least, that's how I would explain it.
Beno?®t Meulle-Stef> Hi! Just a quick note - round the gothic hierarchy we prefer folks to post underneath the post they are replying to. Top-posting causes crabs, that's a Scientific Fact.
As for how many books they read in a year, well, that would be terrifying, wouldn't it? I smell a survey in the offing.
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"Satori" dwisno...@cox.net
Actually, my understanding is that "its" is a pronoun, just as "his" and "hers" are, and that's why it doesn't need an apostraphe.
Paul Ryan pryan...@hotmail.com
Is it a way to get more chavs p***ing exams? :-)
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Superfly Silverman notr...@spamguard.com
All I can guess it to be is that they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Writing a text message and writing in general, like in a news group posting are two different things all together. It is acceptable to truncate words in a text message but not in public writing. I believe, my personal belief, that one should try to make their message a clear as possible. It shows respect to others when you put forth an effort to be as easily understood as possible.
I am far from perfect when it comes to writing and if it wasn't for spell check my short comings would certainly show through.
"Jeremiah Harbottle" nik...@nildram.REMOVE.THIS.co.uk
**** off, cunt.
Superfly Silverman notr...@spamguard.com
V. don't let those idiots give you an excuse for being lazy. It is not expectable to do the '2b' instead of 'to be' in anything other than text messages. If you want to believe those people you are a lost cause V.
and are most likely looking for an easy way out. Don't be that way, strive to be better each day.
To be honest with you V. most of your messages come across like they were written by a child. I don't know how old you are but reading you posts I would think you are about 7 or 8 years old. That is the quality of your writing. I have a 6 year old cousin that is light years ahead of you. I try not to criticize you but if you are older that 7 or 8 I would think that maybe you are brain damaged or slightly retarded by the posts you make. So if this is not the case please try to improve yourself it will only benefit you in the long run.
I have to deal with my own issues when I write. Being mildly dexlexic I struggle with spelling and grammar. I am at my worst when it comes to numbers, even though I often get them jumbled in my head I was still able to get through 3 semesters of college calculus. It was not uncommon for me to get a wrong answer because for some reason my brain trys to ***ociate 3, 4 and 7 together. If an answer was 71 I might write 31. I fought to overcome this and made it through my cl***es. It was hard but in the end it was worth it. It might not be easy for you to improve your writing but just like for me it will be worth it in the end.
"H Duffy" hester_du...@nospam.hotmail.com
And so you should; Tudor documents will often say "John Smith ys farm"; the "ys" is possessive, and doesn't mean "has". And really, if they're going to explain the use of the apostrophe to you, I'd have thought the first year was a better time to do so.
There are two rules. The apostrophe indicates Well, more to the point, possessive pronouns don't take an apostrophe; yours, his, hers, theirs, whose (not who's!), its. They're not contractions originally, they are words in their own right, and therefore don't need anything to indicate the missing bit.
Not that I don't mix Yep, seems pretty reasonable.
It all gets a bit complicated when you get into proper nouns ending in "s", because then the rules vary partly depending on how many syllables there are in the name, and partly, apparently, on where the name comes from; I seem to remember that Biblical and Cl***ical names have a different rule from more modern names.
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"Nyx" wayne...@gmail.com
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"Lori Pierce" LPIE...@wi.rr.com
On the flip side, though (at least as Americans are concerned, IMO), one should at least know some other language besides English. Can't expect EVERYONE to know it. Then again, even English is different, depending on where you live - like the saying goes, "England and America are separated by a common language" :)
ReVulse ReVu...@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk
He doesn't need an excuse.
I've read your posts for ages and I never knew that. I never would have even guessed.
The fact that your posts give no indication of your condition makes Varizo's excuses for his spelling even more flimsy.
#Andy#
Superfly Silverman notr...@spamguard.com
I read through my posts several times to make sure that I worded it correctly, spell check helps as well. My biggest problem with writing is the sentence structure, I sometimes write and speak like a Cajun, to a lesser degree Yoda. I don't make a big deal of it because I dealt with it before it became popular to have it.
Oh! I spelled it wrong before, it's dyslexia. Didn't run that last spell check I guess.
"Natascha" kitty...@wanadoo.nl
well, I agree with reVulse, I never had noticed you were dyslexic!! Well done!!
I think we can do anything if we really want to :-) Natascha "Superfly Silverman" <notr...@spamguard.com> schreef in bericht ...
"erithromycin" erithromy...@ananzi.co.za
H Duffy: Primary school! That'd be the appropriate time. Though I was ten before I got formal schooling in components of language, though I did end up able to conjugate the pluperfect and stuff more or less consciously. It's all gone now, though. I believe that I will have used up all of those parts of my brain for drinking before I have attained the age of thirty.
I am a moron. It's obvious in retrospect that that's why 'its' doesn't have an apostrophe, but I forgot that 'its' might have its own reason for existing because I went apostrophe crazy.
My theory is that if it sounds silly, don't use it, but that's really subjective. I'm not sure how you're meant to indicate things that belong to Metropolis, other than to suggest that they are Metropolitan. If it's big enough to need a rule of its own for apostrophes, it's big enough to have an adjectival form that can be used to donate possession in a pinch.
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