Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment
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Tuttle's Almanac Harry.Tut...@brazil.plumbing.gov
Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 * Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 ??” An Army officer due to ship out to Iraq later this month would rather go to jail than serve and complete the ***ignment.
"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the United States Army to speak out against grave injustices." said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit, 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law." Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because of his opposition to the Iraq War.
He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.
Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had weapons of m*** destruction. Since then, he said he has become convinced the Bush administration "intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.
In an interview with The Seattle Times he said: "I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of every soldier, and specifically the officers, to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every order - including the order to go to war." Highest Ranking Protest to Date Watada is the most senior officer to go public and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.
Others have filed for conscientious objector status, which is an objection to all war. Watada, however, said he is not filing as a conscientious objector because he does not oppose all war - just this one.
"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the Iraqi people with only limited accountability is not only a terrible moral injustice but a contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare," Watada said.
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imatoiletplunger criimi...@large.newsat11
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac ...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin' back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....
"ouroboros rex" c-b...@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu
Ah, the depth of republican thought.
How many innocent babies did your dollars burn to death today?
"Bothrops Wife" snake...@hesmyzero.net
Say what you want. At least we're not toilet plungers like you. As a friendly gesture, I give you standing permission to lick my toilet whenever you want. Everybody's good for something, eh?
Ozzie Oz...@internettexasholdem.com
"Lance" as in, Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas. Pike, a medieval spear carried by frontline infantry.
Piker, slang for tramp, vagrant, a cautious or timid gambler who makes only small bets; a person who takes no chances; a ???poor sport??™ ... a shirker." ...expendable.
Captain Compassion dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac Don't drop the soap.
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"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde "There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is impossible." -- Jack Vance "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce "Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant Joseph R. Darancette dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net
"Grendel" wstho...@bellsouth.net
"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter." (from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office) I guess he lied.
Article 87 of the UCMJ: "Any person subject to this chapter who through neglect or design misses the movement of a ship, aircraft, or unit with which he is required in the course of duty to move shall be punished as a court-martial may direct." Elements.
(1) That the accused was required in the course of duty to move with a ship, aircraft or unit; (2) That the accused knew of the prospective movement of the ship, aircraft or unit; (3) That the accused missed the movement of the ship, aircraft or unit; and (4) That the accused missed the movement through design or neglect.
Court marial his ***. Sentence him to hard labor making little rocks out of big ones.
Yol Bolsun, Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."
imatoiletplunger criimi...@large.newsat11
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:27:11 -0400, "Bothrops Wife" ...uh! ... not a toilet licker... a toilet PLUNGER, a toilet plunger pulls nasty things outta the shitter .... sorta like i did with you in this thread...
Captain Compassion dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net
The Captain recommends Soap on a Rope.
--
"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde "There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is impossible." -- Jack Vance "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce "Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant Joseph R. Darancette dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net
"ouroboros rex" c-b...@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu
k00k on, k00kboy
"Ryd" ryda...@yahoo.com
: Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq : said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit, : 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division.
Guy's making a stand. And the hardest way possible.
Gotta give him credit for that.
Ryda
imatoiletplunger criimi...@large.newsat11
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:31:59 -0500, "ouroboros rex" ...i try ....
"Angry Dave" ddbar...@excite.com
Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same." His first duty is to the Constitution.
More like lied to.
"Bob" n...@email.address
How does serving in Iraq violate the Constitution?
"Grendel" wstho...@bellsouth.net
Yeah, but he's only a lieutenant. He doesn't get to decide how to 'interpret' the Constitution to meet his own, pussfied ways. He's one step up from pond scum in the chain of command (whereas a 2nd Lieutenant IS pond scum). He is not expected to think for himself.
There are many more experienced, higher ranking officers to do the thinking for him. HIS job is to willfully obey those orders.
When you join the military, there is always a chance you will be sent to war. You don't get to pick and choose which war you 'want' to fight.
He is absent with design to miss a troop movement. A court martial is warranted. With possible punishment of "Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years." Or, most simple answer: He's a pussy. Not wanting to fight on 'moral' grounds is just an exscuse not to get his precious *** shot off.
(Gee, maybe I shoulda thought it was 'against the Constitution' for them to station me way up North. If I had had moral problems with freezing my *** off maybe they would have stationed me in Hawaii. ) He signed the paper.
He took the oath.
He took his paycheck.
Time to pay the piper.
If not, prosecute him to the full extent of the United Code of Military Justice. NOT by a civilian court.
Yol Bolsun, Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."
trippy silverbe...@tacoshells.com
He'll probably get totally hosed so thank him for making this stand.
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trippy mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30 sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20 "Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine, but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife, and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
"Angry Dave" ddbar...@excite.com
That is exactly the line that he is ***erting in his defense for missing movement.
That the true enemy to the U.S. Constitution is in the White House.
Leading our country into an unjust invasion of an independent country that was little or no threat to the U.S. and had nothing to do with 9/11 with criminally manipulated intellegence and outright lies.
IMO, he might have a point.
Bill Smith quand...@newsguy.com
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac There have been wholesale slaughters of innocents in every war ever fought in history, it's just one of it's many horrors. There's no justification for it, and there's no policy to carry it out, but it happens just the same. This man is extremely naive if he doesn't realize that. You don't get to choose which wars you fight. He should have been a conscientious objector, instead he's a hypocrite.
Bill Smith
"Angry Dave" ddbar...@excite.com
Wrong... one does not have to obey an unlawful order.
Using your logic, only the commader-in-chief would be making all decisions, everyone else just executing orders. But then the CIC gets to carry all the blame when things go wrong. (and they do/did) So the tortures, civilian casualties, collateral damage, all Bush's fault?
"Grendel" wstho...@bellsouth.net
Okay, what is the unlawful order that he is refusing to obey? I highly doubt ANY court martial is going to say, "Hmmm. you know..those deployment orders WERE unlawful...case dismissed." He doesn't have a case. He's just raising a stink on 'moral' grounds to protect his own cowardly self.
Yol Bolsun, Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."
"Bob" n...@email.address
Not a chance.
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