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"Qomarul Zaman" qomarul_za...@hotmail.com
In Christian belief, there is dogma as follow: 1. All people from long ago until now are sinners because of sin that committed by Adam and Eve, eating forbidden fruit. The sin called "Original Sin." 2. To redeem the sin, The Father sent His Son, Jesus, to be crossed. With Jesus Crossing, then all people who believe Jesus as the savior will be redeemed, no matter sin or crime they have done, doing, or will do.
3. The Christians believe in Trinity. God is one, but... God consists of The Father, The Son, and Holy Spirit. The whole persons are God.
Islam correct those things up.
If the Christian teaching said that if some person (Adam and Eve) committed a sin, then all people (all their descendants) will be sinners too, vice versa just like stated in Romans 5:18-19: "Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. " (Romans 5:18-19) That is not fair and injustice. Islam does not teach that. Islam teaches that everyone is responsible only for his or her action only. Everyone will not be blame for the sin that committed by other people. For example, we are not sinners for the sin that committed by Adam and Eve (our ancestors). If a grandfather commits a murder, then it will not be fair if his grandchildren should be responsible and put in jail.
"Only those who reject Faith will suffer from that rejection: and only those who work righteousness will spread their couch (of repose) for themselves (in heaven):"(Ar Ruum:44) "Nor can a bearer of burdens bear another's burden. If one heavily laden should call another to (bear) his load, not the least portion of it can be carried (by the other), even though he be nearly related. Thou canst but admonish such as fear their Lord unseen and establish regular Prayer. And whoever purifies himself does so for the benefit of his own soul; and the destination (of all) is to Allah." (Al Fathir:18) If you are really searching for the truth, fairness, and also justice, which religion that teach you the truth, fairness, and justice? If we are not blinded by our fanaticism, then we will believe that God is Fair and Just.
Everyone will only bear for his/her sin only.
So, it is not true that all people be sinners because of sin that committed by Adam. And it is also not true, that the "Original Sin" that all people bear could be redeemed because the Son of God was crossed and killed by people. Do we have to commit a bigger sin, namely killing the Son of God or people to redeem the sin that caused by eating a fruit?
In Islam, if we want to be pardoned by God, we should ask for forgiveness to God, and stop doing the sin: "And those who, having done something to be ashamed of, or wronged their own souls, earnestly bring Allah to mind, and ask for forgiveness for their sins; and who can forgive sins except Allah? And are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done." (Ali Imran:135) I pray to God that the verse could open your mind and sense.
Some of Christians said that the killing of Jesus to redeem human sins equal to the sacrifice of cows and sheep that done by the Muslims every year in Idul Fitri and Idul Adha. That's different!
The Muslims sacrifice something of their own to proof their loyalty to God, and give the meat to the poor as their meal. It's also taught in the Old Covenant: "And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.
And he shall bring a ram without blemish out of the flock, with thy estimation, for a tresp*** offering, unto the priest: and the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his ignorance wherein he erred and wist it not, and it shall be forgiven him.
It is a tresp*** offering: he hath certainly tresp***ed against the LORD. " (Leviticus 5:17-19) The killing of Jesus that not belong to the killers is not a sacrifice to redeem their sin. It's a slaughter! The crossing the God, Jesus, until Jesus scared to death and yell "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" ("My God, my God, why do you leave me?", is an evil crime.
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
" (Matthew 27:46) If the meat from the cow or sheep could be useful as meal for the poor, then what the Jesus' meat use for?
Because of Jesus' crossing, Jude should be treated as a hero, for he had helped a lot in the process of the redemption of human sin, so are the Jewish rabby and the Roman soldiers. Instead of hero, they were treated as traitor and sinners.
God has given us brain to think, and mind to find out the truth, to know the rights from the wrongs. I do hope that we think, and put our faith in true religion.
May peace be upon you.
Salam!
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"The Cynic" kosong...@nowhere.com
Which is a better opium/cult?
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"Okorimashiyo" O...@yahoo.com
All religious followers are the fools being fooled by people who control them and make use fo them through religion poisoning in the name of true god from the top post.
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"M. Ranjit Mathews" ranjit_math...@yahoo.com
Correction: Trinitarian Christians believe in a Trinity.
A Brief Introduction to Trinitarian Faith http://www.abortionessay.com/files/Trinitarian.html From Singularity to Binity to Trinity: http://www.public.asu.edu/~enasnod/perspectives/theCOG/athanasius.html http://www.cbcg.org/defining_oneness1.htm BTW, it's not the teaching of all Christians. Opinion in the Eastern Orthodox tradition is: The Augustinian theology of "original sin" is a serious deviation from the un-derstanding of the Church Fathers that distorts the very nature of salvation. This doctrine of original guilt is primarily based on an incorrect translation of Romans 5:12 ...
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"arafat" ara...@pristine.com
all christians should be nailed to the cross if they truely believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God M. Ranjit Mathews <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com> wrote in message ...
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"JMS" no...@nowhere.com
Is that your opinion or is it an Islamic opinion?
aryanviking aryanvik...@europe.com
---> all muslims should marry atleast a dozen women from 6 year olds to wealthy ugly widows and use pebbles for ablution :-)
"Norman Bates" N...@psycho.com
The Roman didn't finish the job well maybe we'll help them clean the mess ...
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