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"ColoradoSkiBum" coloradoski...@hotmail.com
Hi all, We're searching for military schools for a middle-school boy. I don't know where to start with this, what to look for or what to expect. Any help out there? We live in Colorado, in case you couldn't tell from the sig. :-)
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ColoradoSkiBum
"dejablues" dejabl...@comcast.net
Why are you looking into military schools? Is this what the child wants?
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toto scarec...@wicked.witch
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:20:17 -0600, "ColoradoSkiBum" Why military school? What do you hope to get from one?
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Clisby clis...@mindspring.com
You mean a military boarding school (i.e., not necessarily in Colorado?) Or a day school? If it's the latter, your state probably has some sort of independent/private school ***ociation that could help. Or, some public schools have junior ROTC programs, but that wouldn't be the entire school program.
Clisby
Sara que_sara_s...@hotmail.com
I can't help you with that. I'm too confused trying to reconcile "ski bum" and "military school."
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"google it!" em...@prodigy.net
She wants to pack her step-son off to military school so she and the boy's father can continue to enjoy their swinger lifestyle. Poor kid.
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"ColoradoSkiBum" coloradoski...@hotmail.com
: > Hi all, : > : > We're searching for military schools for a middle-school boy. I don't know : > where to start with this, what to look for or what to expect. Any help out : > there? We live in Colorado, in case you couldn't tell from the sig. :-) : : : You mean a military boarding school (i.e., not necessarily in Colorado?) : Or a day school? If it's the latter, your state probably has some sort : of independent/private school ***ociation that could help. Or, some : public schools have junior ROTC programs, but that wouldn't be the : entire school program.
I think we're more interested in military boarding schools. Just on a fact-finding mission at this point.
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ColoradoSkiBum
"T.R.H" nop...@nospam.net
gee, maybe discipline, manners, courtesy, respect? Things that are SORELY lacking in the public school system these days....
And I dont blame the teachers, their hands are tied by results of the liberal social engineering of the last few decades..
"ColoradoSkiBum" coloradoski...@hotmail.com
> Why military school? What do you hope to get from one?
: > : : gee, maybe discipline, manners, courtesy, respect? Things that are : SORELY lacking in the public school system these days....
That, precisely. Do you have any idea where we might start our search?
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ColoradoSkiBum
"dejablues" dejabl...@comcast.net
Right. Kids should be learning these things from their parents.
"Sophie" Sop...@fakeaddress.com
Um, with you and your spouse. The values you mentioned are instilled by parents IMO.
"namek" namek...@netscape.net
Valley Forge M.A. is local to me, and is considered one of the finest . I knew two boys who went there and an old friend was an English teacher at their junior college.
I hope you have very deep pockets...room and board there are upwards of $20,000 per year.
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"T.R.H" nop...@nospam.net
Yes, indeed they should, values that are good and will be reinforced by the school system. Trouble is, our public school system is crippled and a large number of parents DON"T want to teach their kids values, they expect the school to do it. The kids from these parents proliferate the public school system, and their behaviour is a detriment to all others.
Why do you think that charter/traditional schools are in such high demand these days? Parents of kids that want to learn are tired of fighting with the system, and are doing it on their own....
abaj ...@iserv.net (mbajema)
Why not start by looking in the mirror. The aforementioned discipline, manners, courtesy, and respect starts in the home, you fool.
Mary
dragonlady meho...@REMOVEpacbell.net
That was certainly mannerly, courteous and respectful. . .
meh
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Barbara Bomberger barbarabomber...@hotmail.com
While I am not pro military school per se, I do believe that the steriotypical idea of "military school" as where "boys who are in trouble get sent to" is kind of an urban myth if you well. Certainly re-inforced by shows like Malcom in the middle (kinds uncontrollable so mom sends to military school) I do think its not for everyone, and it should be a choice that the child participates in, not that is foisted on him or her. Althouhg I would never send my kid to one, I expect he would do well (but this mind you is a kid who thinks of the citadel or VMI) Military boarding schools are VERY expensive Barb
hill ...@hillary.net (Hillary Israeli)
*Valley Forge M.A. is local to me, and is considered one of the finest . I Where do you live? I'm relatively local to there, too.
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Clisby clis...@mindspring.com
The question was not "Why a private school?" It was "Why a military school?" Considering that a boarding military school would probably cost more than the most expensive private school here in Atlanta, there has to be more to it than wanting to avoid public school.
Clisby (also avoiding public school, but haven't turned to the military yet)
Tracy Cramer tlcramer67SPAM...@yahoo.com
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:31:35 +0200, Barbara Bomberger I agree. Military school used to be my favorite threat (although only a joke!), but now my oldest (14) has been talking about attending one for his junior and senior years of HS. He has some fairly serious behavioural issues, so the biggest reason he wants to go to military school is for the structure. He needs to have his entire day structured pretty strictly and that's not something that can be done very well here with 3 other kids.
I have been spending time looking at websites for the schools in our state and expect that if he remains serious about this, I'll have to schedule visits to see what the schools are like. The only reason I've taken his request seriously is that he has good reasons for wanting to attend military school and I think he's really thought it through.
That's no lie. This is the biggest issue for us -- the schools I've looked at run about $20K per year for a boarding student. There are none close enough for DS to be a day student, so I'm hoping we can find some serious financial aid.
FWIW, DS is planning to go into the Army after graduation, so he feels that military school would help him make the transition more easily.
Tracy ====================================== We child proofed our home 3 years ago and they're still getting in!
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"Denise" rocketwidg...@nospam.att.net
Its great that he can see that military school might help him, Tracy. IIRC he got in some fairly serious trouble, right? I wasn't a bad kid, really, but I do have ADHD and my daughter has Aspberger's (I find myself thinking that might be my actualy problem as I learn more). And Military schooling (AJROTC in high school) and the military (I joined the delayed enlistment program my junior year) have helped me more than I can put into words. The rigid scheduling was a huge benefit. And being in AJROTC definitly helped with the transition from high school to military life.
Denise
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"Donna Metler" dmmet...@bellsouth.net
I don't know what options you have as far as high schools in the area, but some participate in the JROTC program, and it provides many of the same experiences. JROTC cadets also have an advantage for ROTC scholarships and military appointments, and can get advanced placement credit for college ROTC courses.
In most districts, if your local high school doesn't have a program and another in the city does, its considered a valid reason for a choice transfer.
The JROTC commandants I've known have generally been very good-retired military officers who have gotten additional training and experience in teaching children-and generally they're great role models.
"ColoradoSkiBum" coloradoski...@hotmail.com
: I agree. Military school used to be my favorite threat (although only a joke!), : but now my oldest (14) has been talking about attending one for his junior and : senior years of HS. He has some fairly serious behavioural issues, so the : biggest reason he wants to go to military school is for the structure. He needs : to have his entire day structured pretty strictly and that's not something that : can be done very well here with 3 other kids.
That's pretty interesting that he has decided that all on his own. I had a student when I taught in Missouri, as a freshman, the kid was just awful--very smart, very nice one-on-one, but would absolutely ruin any cl***room he was in due to his behavior. Then one day he disappeared--went to Colorado to live with his dad and go to military school. He came back to visit a couple years later, a totally different kid: Polite, well mannered, and he said right out that that was exactly what he needed.
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"ColoradoSkiBum" coloradoski...@hotmail.com
: Yes, indeed they should, values that are good and will be reinforced by : the school system. Trouble is, our public school system is crippled <sigh> Yes, that's the problem we're running into here. We're trying our very best to teach values at home. SS came to us when he was 10 years old, so a lot of the "values" were already set, and we've had a long road changing them. He seems to have responded *at home*--we don't have trouble with him, he's actually very well behaved *at home*--but at school it's a totally different story. Refuses to do work. Tells the teachers he doesn't have to do what they say. And on, and on, and on....I could literally write 3 or 4 pages about this kid. And the people at school, their hands are tied. They *can't* talk to him the way we do; they can't physically restrain him; he knows this and he walks all over them. (My favorite is when he tells them we're going to sue them.) Hence, the fact-finding mission.
Someone else mentioned JROTC. Unfortunately he's in 7th grade, so that's not an option at this point. I don't think he'll make it to 9th grade at the rate he's going. He'll be expelled or get his *** kicked by all the other kids (who hate him) long before he gets there.
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ColoradoSkiBum
toto scarec...@wicked.witch
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:27:01 -0600, "ColoradoSkiBum" Definitely sounds like he needs a change of schools.
One possibility - what about just changing from one school to another in your district. Sometimes a fresh start with new teachers and new kids can do the trick in terms of helping him. He can't really be happy doing what he is doing.
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"ColoradoSkiBum" coloradoski...@hotmail.com
We're already on our 4th school in just over 2 years. If you want all the details I'll be glad to post them here in a new thread, or see my post in alt.support.step-parents.
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ColoradoSkiBum ...
: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 17:27:01 -0600, "ColoradoSkiBum" : : >Someone else mentioned JROTC. Unfortunately he's in 7th grade, so that's : >not an option at this point. I don't think he'll make it to 9th grade at : >the rate he's going. He'll be expelled or get his *** kicked by all the : >other kids (who hate him) long before he gets there.
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: >ColoradoSkiBum : : Definitely sounds like he needs a change of schools.
: : One possibility - what about just changing from one school to another : in your district. Sometimes a fresh start with new teachers and new : kids can do the trick in terms of helping him. He can't really be : happy doing what he is doing.
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