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"Michael Jaeger" majae...@foni.net

Dear experts, my dictionaries do not help me in this specific case: I am looking for a word/phrase that describes a social (?) institution to help/advise/guide/councel drug addicts.
Is there something like a drug counceling/advice center?
Thanks for your suggestions, Mike
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Tony Cooper tony_cooper...@yahoo.com

I don't think there is a single term, but all would be substance abuse treatment centers.  There would be several variations of this.  The telephone book "yellow pages" in the town I live in lists all them under "Drug Abuse & Addiction - Information and Treatment".  Nothing is listed under either "Drug ..." or "Substance ..." .  
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"Michael Jaeger" majae...@foni.net

Hi Tony, thanks for explanation. I think this helps a lot.
Mike
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"Don Phillipson" dphillip...@trytel.com

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 substance abuse treatment centers.
This reminds us of an interesting sequence: 1.  Because mistaken identifications could damage chances of prosecution, police forces in Britain started using the word "substance" to name suspicious materials found, that might be illegal drugs.  The word was chosen since it seemed inocuous and comprehensive.
2.  Quite rapidly, the word "substance" was adopted by the news media and then the general public to mean simply "illegal drugs."  Thus "drug abuse" became "substance abuse" and so on.
3.  There are plenty of other examples in modern history, notably "lavatory"and "bathroom," both of which originally meant a washroom.  When you nowadays say you need to use the bathroom, it is not to wash (although we hope you do.)
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meirman ...@erols.com

In alt.english.usage on Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:30:11 -0400 Tony Cooper <tony_cooper...@yahoo.com> posted: But there is no reason Michael can't say "drug counseling center**".
The other term is used so they can accurately include aerosol cans and liquor, etc.  Sometimes I even think they call heroin a drug but methedrine something else.  I wonder why I just said that.   Or maybe because of what Don says.
I've found that yellow pages sometimes has different categories in different cities, although mine does have exactly what you gave!
(maybe my case is only for uncommon things), but once one has found the category, any names used in any of the listings might work for your purposes.
**spelled with an s in the US fwiw.
I saw a guy in a truck from a nearby state Delware, and he had a name "chemical partners" or something like that, and I thought it had to do with Dow Chemical, but he told me it had to do with drug addiction.
I see as individual listings Addiction Counseling Service; Center for Addiction Medicine; Chesapeake Counseling Service,.  There are a lot with this last one. Maybe centers are p***e in this town.  except for Mountain Manor Treatment Center (alcohol and drugs).  Dang, just reading the ad makes me feel healthy.
Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years              Indianapolis,   7 years              Chicago,        6 years              Brooklyn NY    12 years              Baltimore     17 years

"Eric Walker" ewal...@owlcroft.com

But never forget that telephone companies expend vast amounts of money on special study task forces to find the least likely possible phrases under which to list things in their "yellow pages."
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Cordially, Eric Walker, Owlcroft House

"Eric Walker" ewal...@owlcroft.com

[...] [...] There are significant numbers of "substances" with perfectly innocuous ordinary uses (like glue) that can be abused for illicit (or call it just plain stupid) purposes.  "Substance abuse" seems a reasonable term as a generic description of using a substance, normally legal or normally proscribed, for purposes of intoxication.  (What an apt word, too, when one considers it properly.)
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Cordially, Eric Walker, Owlcroft House

Odysseus odysseus1...@yahoo.ca

> But there is no reason Michael can't say "drug counseling center**".
> The other term is used so they can accurately include aerosol cans and
> liquor, etc.  Sometimes I even think they call heroin a drug but
> methedrine something else.  I wonder why I just said that.
> Or maybe because of what Don says.
Perhaps you're thinking of "narcotic". Technically speaking I think that only opium derivatives and similar drugs are narcotics, but the legal definition doesn't necessarily follow from their medical characteristics. In Canada, for example, opiates, cocaine and cannabis (!) are legally "narcotics" -- they are prohibited by the _Narcotics Control Act_ -- while other recreational drugs including amphetamines, barbiturates and psychedelics are "controlled substances" under the _Food and Drug Act_ (?) of some twenty years later. This has the effect that growing a pot plant in one's closet can leave one liable to considerably more severe penalties than does providing "Angel Dust" to children.
I believe the situation in the US to be similar; it is interesting to note that the anti-marijuana crusader Harry Anslinger of the FDA, after receiving endorsement from the AMA on his outrageously false 'scare stories' about the effects of cannabis, lobbied strenuously (albeit unsuccessfully) *against* the proscription of pharmaceutical products like Benzedrine.
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In alt.english.usage on Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:25:00 GMT Odysseus <odysseus1...@yahoo.ca> posted: Maybe.
Yeah.  It might be that way in the US, and if so, yes, that is what got me.  Thanks So Benzedrine becomes a substance, not just liquor, aerosol propellants iirc, and glue (never want to forget glue! :) ) Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years              Indianapolis,   7 years              Chicago,        6 years              Brooklyn NY    12 years              Baltimore     17 years

"misoneism" Misone...@blabla.net

in my city we use the simple term, "rehab".
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