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MikePutfus ...@msn.com (Mike)
December 6, 2002 Native man leads cl***-action quest for residential school compensation OTTAWA (CP) -- Charlie Baxter was nine years old when a bush plane landed near his family's remote trap line to take him off to a native residential school.
It was 1959.
Baxter spoke Ojibway and didn't understand a word of English.
He and nine siblings were plucked from their Ontario home, about 500 kilometres north of Thunder Bay, by federal government agents and the RCMP.
Any resistance by their parents could have meant jail time.
The children wound up at the now-closed Pelican Falls Indian Residential School near Sioux Lookout, Ont. Each was ***igned a number.
Baxter was No. 11. He remembers being slapped until he understood what his number meant and how to respond when he heard it called.
"Or if anybody different got up, they got slapped." Now 52, Baxter is named as the lead plaintiff on a countrywide, cl***-action lawsuit. If certified to proceed, it seeks at least $12 billion in compensation for former residential school students and their families.
A judge is expected to rule next year on whether http://www.canoe.ca/NationalTicker/CANOE-wire.Residential-Schools-Law...
wolvb ...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch)
i wish them all the luck in the world...and justice thrown in...
the one i went to was church run...and is no longer...
hopefully, all the sons of bitches involved in it are shoveling coals in the xian hells...
better yet, maybe they are serving their blood thirsty evil god and angels...
i would prefer their devil to their god...
some people forget, some people forgive..
me? i do neither...
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Primitive Jim clog...@softcom.net
Thanks Mike!
This shouldn't be swept under the rug and forgotten.
JBT
kisseen ...@aol.com (Kis see noh o)
you know, jim, mike...
i don't think it will be...
before, there was a sense of hopelessness to speaking out...
i know that i had no thought that anyone would ever know, or worse, CARE, about the old boarding schools...
it was just one thing of many that was perpetrated on our peoples...
just one link in the long chain...
now, more of us are speaking out, and i think that is good...
there is no reparation for most of us, but, the word is out, and hopefully, it will not happen again...
Azotar de Fuerza azo...@hotmail.com
What a horror story.
"Jimmie" migizi...@attbi.nospam.com
Hey Wolvs, the school was open from 1920 til 1996, chances are many of the monsters who worked there are still alive and doing who knows what and to whom out in the world. Hopefully these attorneys are bringing charges up against them as well.
Jimmie ...
wolvb ...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch)
i would hope so...
the one i went to was closed by the diocese in the late 50's...
there was just one beating death too many...
it happened to be one of the white girls that was sent there as an "incorrible" student..
the poor thing was partially deaf...
some people forget, some people forgive..
me? i do neither...
http://hometown.aol.com/wolvbtch/index.html Free Leonard Peltier
Azotar de Fuerza azo...@hotmail.com
On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 22:25:45 GMT, "Jimmie" My childhood was distressed and really never even happened, but my experiences were tiny nothing compared to this. It's very upsetting to read about.
MikePutfus ...@msn.com (Mike)
I believe it can and will happen again if they don't learn from it.
The best way for them to learn is from where it will hurt the most.
Money and teaching the real history of our Countrys.
Mike
wolvb ...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch)
i read yesterday of a march against cardinal law and the boston diocese...
400 people in that march...
it comes too late..and only because it is white people who are the abused...
100 years too late...
some people forget, some people forgive..
me? i do neither...
http://hometown.aol.com/wolvbtch/index.html Free Leonard Peltier
Primitive Jim clog...@softcom.net
Were you raised by catholics?
JBT
lisa_dil ...@hotmail.com (lisa dillon)
It takes speaking up! and speaking up and never letting a soul forget.
Look, if it were not for the Leagal Cases against Resadentual Schools and Abuses by the Clergy against Native Children in Canada.There would not have ever been the disclosure or exposure of the otrosities caused at the hands of the Catholic Church and Others.
Abuses at Indian schools happens today! or at least happped a few years ago if I am to believe a young girls story. So it's not a yesterday story! The past will repete its slef agen sure,this time it's not just schools it's the gang mantality and all their blinding control closeing in on our young people....Lisa D....
Primitive Jim clog...@softcom.net
Our current U.S. political administration is conducive to such back sliding. Even in the public school situation they wanted vouchers so they could fund their xtian propaganda school machine.
Teach the little kids that earth is just a meaningless stop over on the way to what is not an illusion, "heaven", so not to worry, trash the earth for Jesus!!!
If the bums get reelected they will move into the burning at the stake phase of their master plan for the good of their Masonic utopia.
They need someone else to blame for their greed and indifference.
JBT
Azotar de Fuerza azo...@hotmail.com
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:31:20 -0800, Primitive Jim No, it wasn't like that. But there were lots of problems which raise my empathy for experiences these boarding school kids had. All I have to do is remember a few things and then imagine myself in their situation. I need to lightly read those news stories and not get into them so I don't get bummed out!
I taped "Where The Spirit Lives" from WorldLinkTV a few weeks ago.
That 1989 movie parallels the news story and is not being distributed even though it's a good film, if not a little upsetting.
Primitive Jim clog...@softcom.net
Did the version you saw have the after piece where they talked with the old timers who went to the schools.
JBT
"Wayne George" wa...@turtleback.net
Mii'gwetch for posting this Mike.
Wayne ~~tsc~~ ...
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Azotar de Fuerza azo...@hotmail.com
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:17:24 -0800, Primitive Jim No an actress - Marianne Jones? - introduces and closes the film. I don't know why they didn't include the interviews. Somebody else mentioned that too.
Primitive Jim clog...@softcom.net
I felt the interviews were of great historical importance. Here were these older men and women, obviously full bloods or shure enough close to it saying that a role number and skin color were no measure of an ndn. They each and every one testified how the schools systematically removed the ndn from them.
I met a Cree school graduate in the early eighties who was searching for people to take him under their wing, to tell him the things the school had denied him. I directed him towards members of his tribe in these parts who still went by the old ways.
JBT
wolvb ...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch)
we talk about reparation, of compensation..
so do the blacks...
and every time i i hear it...
even of the church abuse of white kids...
everytime, i think !HOW! can this be repaired? compensated???
how will this stop the nightmares? how will this bring back the murdered? how will this erase the beatings, and abuse???
how will this find our families that thought we were dead, or those mothers to their forcibly adopted children???
how will reparation, compensation, change those evils???
will it give the lost child his/her mother???
will it give the grieving mother her child?
will it stop the damn nightmares???
will it restore childhoods and bring back parents to love us???
and bring back those who cannot be hurt any longer???
will it REALLY stop future abuses????
i would like to think so...
but i do not believe it...
some people forget, some people forgive..
me? i do neither...
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pumac ...@aol.com (Pumaclaw)
I don't think it can be repaired or compensated for but what do I know?
an ...@aol.com (Anuh1)
Reparations are a laugh, always. You can never make better that which happened in the past.
an ...@aol.com (Anuh1)
At least, if they can clean up the problem, perhaps it will prevent any MORE of this happening to anyone else ever again. Is that possible? I personally don't have much faith in it.
an ...@aol.com (Anuh1)
There is no way it can make up for what happened in the past. And like you, I doubt it will stop future abuse. Now, if they would adopt the OLD Law of Blood for their own, it would never happen again. The penalty is not just a slap on the hand, but death.
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