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YMCA fliers banned from school Ad promoting basketball camp mentions 'Christian principles' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36075 December 11, 2003 Not known as an overtly Christian organization, the YMCA has come under fire in Bakersfield, Calif., where a school district banned the organization's promotional fliers from its campuses.
The local Y can no longer send fliers home with children because a recent one happened to mention the organization puts "Christian principles into practice," [GASP!!!!!] reports the Bakersfield Californian.
YMCA officials are fuming, the paper reports, and the brouhaha could possibly affect other area school districts.
The offending flier, which a district lawyer claims violates the so-called separation of church and state, promoted upcoming basketball camps sponsored by the Y.
According to the report, the controversy began three weeks ago with a phone call to administrators at Panama-Buena Vista Union School District. A parent complained that Christian values were being promoted in a Salvation Army poster asking for clothing donations, Richard Ceccarelli, the district's deputy superintendent, told the Californian.
Since the poster didn't mention the group's Christian mission, it was deemed appropriate. The incident, however, reportedly sensitized the school district to other possible violations. That's when the YMCA flier was targeted.
The basketball-camp flier included the words: "To put Christian principles into practice through programs that build spirit, mind and body for all." The paper reports district officials called the Y to tell them they could either delete the Christian reference or stop distributing the fliers. The organization chose the latter option.
Ceccarelli said in the past the Y's fliers did not emphasize Christianity as much.
True, YMCA CEO John Bagala told the Californian. He says he encouraged the Kern County chapter of the Y to return to its Christian roots about four years ago.
"When I started, I put the Christian statement on everything," Bagala told the paper.
Now, Bagala is standing by what he feels is his organization's mission.
"We're not going to take our fliers and revamp them without the mission statement on it," Bagala is quoted as saying. "It's always going to be on there." Indeed, Bagala vowed to step up the Christian message on each flier by spelling out the organization's name: Young Men's Christian ***ociation.
Ceccarelli told the paper he is a Christian and share's the organization's values, but he also works for a public agency that "is under the tenets of the state constitution."
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JimB http://www.geocities.com/UAM01 Union Against Multi-Culty
"Roger" roge...@hotmail.com
Being a dumb as dirt Australian racist, you wouldn't know that our Constitution bans the promotion of religion by the government.
It's very simple why the school did this. It's the law.
WorldNetDaily is published by people as stupid as you, who think that because they don't like something they can break the law.
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Mitchell Holman ta2eeneNoEm...@comcast.com
Good for the school. If a Moslem charity was banned from distributing fliers on a school campus would our conservative parents come to its defense?
"redclay" reddcla...@yahoo.com
The YMCA is now a business and should be treated as such. The farce of treating it as a charity or social group has to be stopped. Demand that your local YMCA post its complete budget especially its salaries so people can see. Around here the "Y" is selling trees, childcare, weight reduction and swimming at the commercial rate at the same time it is not paying real estate taxes or business taxes. Same thing as the AARP.
"TheWanderer" nob...@spamcop.net
Being a dumb as dirt Australian racist, you wouldn't know that our And you are the dumb ***. The YMCA is not a government.
So in your eyes if a group of religious students got together in the dinning hall and had a prayer session you would also conclude this as the government promoting relgion.
"Roger" roge...@hotmail.com
The school is. Did I really have to explain that to you?
No, I would not. As long as all student started and led groups are treated equally, they can and should be given facilities to hold their meetings.
However, once adults get involved, it becomes a state sponsored message. No religious messages can be delivered this way.
"Roger" roge...@hotmail.com
Some might, but I doubt it.
"TheWanderer" nob...@spamcop.net
So what if the kids from the school p***ed these flyers out?????
Then What????
Nothing Just as I though.
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"Roger" roge...@hotmail.com
I don't know.
Based on what? Wishes and dreams, or some sort of evidence?
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