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"Brian \(aka Zod\)" zod...@NOSPAMtelus.net
I think it was smart to leave enough alone with ruper tonight. There were 9 survivors left tonight (i'll be screwed if i got that wrong). People seemed to be worried about a tight allieance of 3. So you really only need 7 to do the job. Everyones worried about forming such a big alliance that you might be left in the situation of being the first person gone when theres no one left but that alliance. I think its better letting a few people go first so when you pull off the screw job you find yourself in a smaller alliance.
as for tonight.. I don't think anyone wants to mess with rupert, that guy is downright scary, and I think everyone else fears him. Its why people were frighten to give him cocunts at the challenge. Like annoying Jon and Burton said, if there gonna get rid of him (or screw him) there going to have to blindside him. He's going to go insane. I wouldn't of screwed him unless i knew (or strongly believed) he was going home.. I wouldn't want to suffer the wrath of rupert. He seems really unstable.
- Brian
"Mr Green" MrGr...@gg.com
LOL thats pretty funny.
I would of kept him around for food & fish and send home his alliances. now since theres 8 i would keep john, knock out one girl from morgan (sandra since she is likly to win challenges), then take turns knocking a person from each tribe.
pax ...@yahoo.com (Bing)
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:10:23 GMT, "Brian \(aka Zod\)" Well, if you got five people together and booted him, you really wouldn't have to worry about how scary he was, would you?
Well, ***uming you get a lock on your door at Loser's Lodge.
Perhaps that's his strategy. Unfortunately for them, though, Rupert has managed to get rid of most anyone with a backbone.
Still, the folks outside of "Rupert's Three" have one or two weeks to do something about him. It should be quite clear to Lil, Jon, and Burton that Rupert has no room for any of them in the final three (he even told that directly to Lil).
Hopefully, Lil, Burton, and Jon are just waiting for old Morgan to be down to one player. Then, they recruit the remaining Morgan and knock out Rupert 4-3 (or one of his girls if he wins immunity that week).
If Rupert decides that it is time to clean out Jon or Burton next week, he'd get Morgan's votes and head off any kind of mutiny.
This is an interesting stage of the game.
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"Andy Smith" andyPLZNOSPAMg...@bellsouth.net
Sandra is not from Morgan, she's a Drake. Also Sandra has not been a serious threat to win challenges so far.
"philip" tech...@frontiernet.net
I don't buy it that everyone is scared of Rupert. I just think the alliances that are forming made it possible for Ryno to be the brushed aside and still keep things going smoothly at camp until the time comes to cut Rupert off at the knees. He catches enough food to feed three tribes so that is benefit enough without fearing his wrath so to speak.
I think the camera crew is armed with stun guns anyway in case someone goes ballistic. ;o)
myn ...@yahoo.com
Hmm, Rupert with a cutl*** and a slingshot vs. the camera crew with stun guns... I'll take Rupert.
Now that Arnie's the governor, and Bruce is bald, Hollywood needs a new action hero. How about Rupert.
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Bill C bcarter...@hotmail.com
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:10:23 GMT, "Brian \(aka Zod\)" I totally disagree. Rupert seems like a very stable and in control individual. I tend to think that his harsh and overbearing responses to people who go against him are entirely calculated and methodical (teen counseling style). I seriously doubt he would ever actually hurt anyone...besides if he got violent (***uming that's the part of his stabily that concerns you) he would immediately be disqualified from the game and not even get to be on the jury so if that was the case then it would be in anyones best interest to just encourage him to smack you if you really thought he would do so. No way though, Rupert knows exactly what he's doing and I don't think at all that he's as emotionally irrational or unstable as a lot of people here seem to believe. I hope he makes it to the end. So far I'd say he's my favorite cast member in the history of the game.
Bill C
Jules Day j...@theraces.com
Not according to Ryno. He said: "Rupert taught me a lot about dealing with people. He's really calm and mellow. He gets upset at people for not doing things, but, ya know, just talk to 'em in a gentle tone." OK, we've seen a few freakouts, but Ryno did live with Rupert for 6 days (2 at Morgan and 4 post-merge) so he must know what he's talking about.
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paullyn paullyn59T...@OUTyahoo.com
They seem to be worried about his reaction enough not to upset him by letting him know he is a target (not giving him coconuts). They do not want to live with him for 3 days or more if he wins IC with him knowing everyone wants him gone. That is why they need to blindside him. It hurts Rupert because he thinks he is reasonably safe and therefore will not try to save himself. No need to look for alternative alliances if you think you are safe so it is a bad plan if that is why he is doing acting that way.
paullyn paullyn59T...@OUTyahoo.com
Key words, "just talk to 'em in a gentle tone" and he only lived with him 6 days like you said. Proof that Rupert can be scary at times.
paullyn paullyn59T...@OUTyahoo.com
Poor Ryan. If Rupert is booted next, Ryan will have to live with him alone for 3 days all by himself.
Jaime swimmd...@hotNOSPAMmail.com
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:01:06 -0500, paullyn Ryan is gone now. What version of Survivor are *you* watching?
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Jules Day j...@theraces.com
Who isn't scary at times?
Ryno said Rupert talked to them (the people he was upset with) in a gentle tone.
6 days = at least 72 waking hours (and that's ***uming they sleep 12 hours a day...unlikely) vs.
the 8.5 televised hours we've seen so far.
Hmmm, I think I'll believe the person who was there instead of the edited, highly compressed account.
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Jazz js...@stny.rr.com
Won't Ryan and Rupert have to live together alone in the Jury lodge for three days if that happens? Or have the rules changed again?
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paullyn paullyn59T...@OUTyahoo.com
"Booted next" means he will be at LL with Ryan!
"Caliban" caliban03nos...@earthlink.net
This is precisely why tribe members should have delivered a few more "coconut digs" last night. Rupert would go insane. And his head would be more on the chopping block than ever at the next Tribal Council (***uming he doesn't win immunity).
To win, you want to slyly plant a seed that will make the competition have emotional outbursts and blow up, then step back when he/she does. It's self-destruction to fly so high on the radar.
I suspect the editors messed with viewers big-time last night. Either those who had decided he had to go carefully determined 'first vote out Ryan O, then Rupert' (for various reasons), or Rupert actually has a very strong alliance with others and this was edited out last night.
Agreed. Unstable but still functional. Barely.
But to give due credit, add to Rupert's skills of swimming, spearfishing, and trying something new (sewing): Helluva slingshot aim and slingshot strength.
Jaime swimmd...@hotNOSPAMmail.com
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:51:39 -0500, paullyn Okay. Sorry I didn't notice that before my first cup of coffee.
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web1 ...@shaw.ca (Matt)
Whats he gonna do? What can he do? Nothing...
Dgates dga...@spamfreelinkline.com
Okay, I'm going to try to ask this objectively, but I'll admit that in real life I would never want to work on any kind of project with Rupert.
Are you saying that Rupert's reaction at Jon's audacity in voting against him is somehow a style he should be using when counseling teens? Isn't there some rule that however you treat people, you shouldn't be surprised if they start acting that way themselves?
Can you give us some more detail on the term "teen counseling style?"
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Doris PiratePrinc...@treasure.isl
Was that a deliberate typo or a Freudian slip? LOL!
Are you politely pointing out the Freudian slip? :-) I read in some other thread that Drake lied in their confessionals .. that they were playing the game with MB and JPro. There's no fathoming what's really going on. We can only guess based on what they show us, and for the most part, it seems to be quite misleading.
I think he's one of the most stable people there. He's also a bit more than barely functional. :-) I think his greatest strength is strength of character. He's very determined and pragmatic in his approach and seems to be honest in his dealings with others. He doesn't make outlandish promises (that we know of). His attitude gives him a huge advantage.
He also seems happy for the most part and is clearly thriving on that island. He's losing weight and I'd bet is actually in better shape physically than when he arrived. Lots of good brain juices flow from that kind of exercise. There's strategizing going on under Blackbeard's mop of pirate curls.
It's always amazing to me how different people see different things watching the exact same show.
Doris
Jazz js...@stny.rr.com
So in your opinion, whatever somebody does for a living is exactly how they will conduct themselves in all other facets of their lives, including how they play a *game*? Particularly a social psycho-drama of a game like Survivor? You don't see any possibility that Rupert was acting that way, and I mean *acting* as part of his strategy? Or perhaps you think that Jon is, in fact, a teen under Rupert's couseling program?
Please.
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"CB" bea...@somewhere.net
I don't know how many times I've heard, "When *I* was a kid, I was more afraid of my parents finding out, than the cops." Remember how afraid you were of the principal, but when you think back, he was probably a pretty nice guy?
Both are examples of letting children know that, hey, I (the authority figure) can be a really great guy, but if you cross the line, there are consequences. Sure, it probably works with much younger children (I didn't fear going to the principal's office in HS), but when counseling troubled teens, I'm sure that 90% of the job is re-programming and starting over at an elementary level, so they know that: a) above all else, they're loved and cared for b) they have responsibilities and are an important part of the human race c) there are consequences for bad behavior Even if their parents didn't give a rat's *** what they did or what happened to them, SOMEBODY does care about them, and has expectations of them. I'm quite sure he doesn't explode and make physical threats to his kids, but that may be his method of getting a point across to Jon and Burton. That's what works for them (and it has, so far).
It's fear of disapproval and disappointment from the one providing for you and giving you unconditional love. He has to be able to ACT disappointed, and ACT sad, and ACT happy, even if all he's really thinking about is that hot date and big steak he'll be having for supper tonight.
Because, after all, it's about filling voids, and giving people what they need...and Jon needs a good ***-kicking. :-)
paullyn paullyn59T...@OUTyahoo.com
Rupert teaches job skills to teens only. He is not a real counselor. It has been blown way out of proportion.
"Caliban" caliban03nos...@earthlink.net
Based on a comment someone else made here at the newsgroup yesterday, if I had to bet now, I'd say the non-coconuting of Rupert is part of the careful scheme to totally "blindside" (words that one or more of the castaways used) Rupert.
Ryan O. in his chat said he had no idea why Rupert was receiving less coconuts.
That Ryan O. had no idea makes sense, as the rest of the Castaways had schemed to get rid of Ryan O. and so couldn't tell Ryan of any plans to get rid of Rupert, lest Ryan let Rupert get any wind that Rupert was going to be next out.
Rupert now is less likely to strategize to save himself. Based on what Sandra and Christa said while washing each other's hair, they may very well be putting on acts like they're with him.
If this is true, and Rupert does not win immunity and is voted out next, it will be one of the best, most carefully planned blindsides to date.
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Bill C bcarter...@hotmail.com
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:54:22 -0800, Dgates While keeping in mind that everyones playing a game to try and win a million dollars and not actually trying to mentor teens I think that Rupert has been using those sort of skills to build his relationships in the game. All I was getting at with that off hand term was that lots of teens can be pretty hard headed and stubborn when dealing with authority figures and sometimes in order to get your point across and break thru that barrier you have to open up a bit with a little harsh communication. I tend to think that perhaps Rupert acted that way towards Jon just to leave a sour taste about his actions. Rupert also ended his big tirade on Jon with a resolving hug maybe to let him feel that if everything between them remains friendly then all that tension goes away. It kind of seemed to shake Jon up a bit and makes him take a certain caution about doing it again (or at least how to go about it). If Rupert has any intuition at all he probably got the feeling early on that Jon was gonna be a weasel when it came to alliances. Above all though everyone is trying to win a million dollars so it's really hard to figure out what actually motivates anyones actions in the game.
I also can't figure out why Rupert is still in the game when everyone could have easily taken him out during that last immunity challenge.
Makes me think that either the show is totally rigged (which I would hate to really believe) or that Rupert does still have a certain hold over the group. I think it's a longshot for him to win with this strategy but I'm definitely rooting for him.
Bill C
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