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"patrick" p.horenst...@comcast.net

Are there any e-mail groups or newsgroups specializing in recovery from a Buddhist perspective?

"David Raleigh Arnold" darno...@cox.net

My understanding is that there is quite a bit of rehab work done by monks in Thailand, or at least it has been publicized in the west effectively.
In a sense, all Buddhism is a rehab activity.  Lord Buddha said that while most people were physically healthy most of the time, that was not true of mental health.  DaveA
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...New occasions teach new duties; Time makes ancient good uncouth; They must upward still, and onward, who would keep abreast of truth; Lo, before us gleam her camp-fires! we ourselves must Pilgrims be; Launch our Mayflower, and steer boldly through the desperate winter sea; Nor attempt the Future's portal with the Past's blood-rusted key.
      ---James Russell Lowell:  "The Present Crisis" 1844.
D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ http://www.openguitar.com  darno...@cox.net

"David Raleigh Arnold" darno...@cox.net

I am disappointed that there are not more replies to this question.
DaveA
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...New occasions teach new duties; Time makes ancient good uncouth; They must upward still, and onward, who would keep abreast of truth; Lo, before us gleam her camp-fires! we ourselves must Pilgrims be; Launch our Mayflower, and steer boldly through the desperate winter sea; Nor attempt the Future's portal with the Past's blood-rusted key.
      ---James Russell Lowell:  "The Present Crisis" 1844.
D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ http://www.openguitar.com  darno...@cox.net

"patrick" p.horenst...@comcast.net

I guess my question is your question. Books would be great but a group wherein I could talk about Buddhism in direct relation to Buddhism would be a nice experience.
Buddhism attracted me because it insists of consciousness. That works in relation to addiction, too.
. I wonder if anyone has written extensively on http://www.flatmajic.com/12step_books_gifts/spirituality/Buddhism/bud...

"Les Matheson" les-DELETENOS...@ivsds.com

Patrick,   I know its not quite to the point of your question, but the thought occurs to me that in a sense, Buddhist practice is all about recovery from addiction.  Of course, we don't normally think of it in terms of recovery from substance abuse -- but there's a perspective from which being addicted to substances is not much different than being addicted to our concepts of success, pleasure, security, and identity.
  I would think that just studying the Dharma, practicing, and joining a local center would go a long way toward addressing recovery from addiction.
My wife is a counselor for heroin addicts, and as I listen to the stories she brings home, I often think "what that person needs to add to their program is meditation!", etc...
Thanks, Les ...
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http://www.flatmajic.com/12step_books_gifts/spirituality/Buddhism/bud...

David Raleigh Arnold darno...@cox.net

It hasn't been updated since last year, and it is not cool.
Reconciling the irreconcilable.
I wish you had found something worthwhile in that search.
The 12 steps *don't work*.  The success rate of 12 steppers is not even a particle better than the success rate of those who undertake no recovery program at all.  That means that the 12 steps are worthless lies, and the program is a racket.
A key to recovery is *meditation*.  Wen you come to the point that you *value* a clear and responsive mind, the state of intoxication loses *all* attraction.
Rational Recovery was a non-12-step organization that seemed to me to have some good ideas, but I haven't kept up with them.
When I googled "Rational Recovery" I found the problem right quick.  They are too strident.  But not wrong.  DaveA
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"We have learned the lessons of Viet Nam." --anon Spokesman "Failure is not an option." --anon Spokesman Can both be true? n  Are both false? y  Right answers get my vote.
D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ http://www.openguitar.com  darno...@cox.net

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