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cora ...@aol.come.on.now (Maddie)
Sorry, GX. I promise not to copy you anymore. Just thought some parents might like to read this: Parents: Quit Smoking Before Your Child Turns 8 Reuters Health By Alison McCook Friday, May 9, 2003 NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - New research suggests that, for parents, quitting smoking before children turn eight or nine appears to steer them away from becoming teenagers who smoke.
U.S. researchers discovered that children of parents who quit smoking before the youngsters entered third grade were 39 percent less likely to be smokers themselves at age 17 or 18 than children whose parents never butted out for good.
Children start to experiment with cigarettes soon after they reach eight or nine, and these findings suggest that parents who smoke while children are faced with the option of smoking themselves are a "providing a model of smoking behavior in the household," study author Jonathan B. Bricker told Reuters Health.
In other words, smoking in front of your children can have both physical and psychological effects, he added.
"By parents quitting smoking, they are not only protecting their children from the health hazards of secondhand smoke, but they are also preventing the children from becoming smokers themselves," said Bricker, who is at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Washington.
He added that he hopes these findings provide "a new motivation for smoking parents to quit." During the study, published in the journal Addiction, Bricker and his colleagues interviewed both parents of 3,012 third graders, then re-contacted the families when the children reached 17 or 18.
Although having both parents quit in childhood lowered teen smoking rates by almost 40 percent, even one parent's choice to quit during the child's youth reduced the risk of teen smoking by 25 percent compared to families where both parents continued to smoke.
However, the best protection against teen smoking appeared to come from families in which both parents never smoked, in whom children were 71 percent less likely to become smokers themselves, than families in which both parents were still smoking into their child's teen years.
"The best situation of these groups is to be the child of a never smoker," Bricker said.
He added that parents who quit smoking might discourage the habit in their children by becoming somewhat of an "activist." Kicking an addiction for good requires a strong resolution, he said, and parents who don't want to restart smoking may adopt certain habits -- such as speaking negatively about smoking, sitting the family in non-smoking sections of restaurants, or forbidding smoking in the house -- which discourage smoking in kids.
These findings clearly suggest that anti-smoking messages need to target parents early, Bricker said. Distributing pamphlets and hotline numbers, or holding meetings at school may help teach parents of young children the damage their habit can cause, and the "double benefit" that comes from kicking it for good, he noted.
"If they quit, they not only help themselves, they can keep their children from smoking," Bricker said.
He added that he and his colleagues are currently investigating whether parents who quit smoking after their children enter third grade also protect them from teen smoking.
SOURCE: Addiction 2003;98:585-593.
Maddie, non-smoker since March 25, 2003
cora ...@aol.come.on.now (Maddie)
Me: ...
Like, duh, Maddie! I think that article might actually be *on* topic.
Right..."O" for "on" and "T" for "topic." Well, round these here parts OT stands for *off* topic.
Hee. Hee. I'm originally blonde, you know, Paula.
No wuckas : ) Anyone here good at math?
If there's a 70% chance of getting addicted to nicotine...
...yet children of never-smokers are 71% less likely to become smokers...
how/why/wtf am I a recovering addict?!?
Maddie, non-smoker since March 25, 2003
"elle" elleNOS...@heydave.net
The key to this question is in another question. Less likely than who?
I didn't read the article but from this it would seem that 71% is a measurement of a *difference* in probability of behavior between two different populations.
For example, you could have 200 people in two groups of 100 each, defined by some differentiating characteristic. Say one group has been exposed to something in the environment (group A), and the other group (group B) hasn't.
The people in each group are given the opportunity to select between various options as part of the study. Twenty-five of the people in Group A might select one option, while 75 of the people in Group B select the same option.
The statistical difference in probablility for selecting that option wouldn't be expressed as a percentage of the original 200, it would *compare* 25% of group A with 75% of group B.
Hope this helps.
hugs, elle
"Kathleen" lovebirds1...@hotmail.com
Ha! Just slid in for one of them! The older one is... ::claps hand over mouth:: mm... very vulnerable to peer pressure ATM. The younger one turned 7yo a month after I quit.
Whoooohooooooo!
With hope and heart, Kathleen Must flash new meter... didn't even realize it had turned It has been eleven wicked awesome miraculous months, 8 wicked exhilarating hours, 52 wicked cool minutes and 0 wicked extraordinary seconds since I smoked, much to my total astonishment and dismay! I have mentally mutilated 10031 stinky, wicked nasty, health destroying, joy stealing, death expediators; saving $2,256.99 to be spent frivolously on black leather swimsuits, a pile of new doggie toys, summer vacation at Port Aransas, maybe a trip to see Elle, and a bunch of other totally unnecessary but fun stuff! Life saved to be spent dancing wickedly and singing at the top of my lungs: 4 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 55 minutes.
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: Sorry, GX. I promise not to copy you anymore. Just thought some parents might : like to read this: : : Parents: Quit Smoking Before Your Child Turns 8 : : Reuters Health : By Alison McCook : Friday, May 9, 2003 : : NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - New research suggests that, for parents, quitting : smoking before children turn eight or nine appears to steer them away from : becoming teenagers who smoke.
: U.S. researchers discovered that children of parents who quit smoking before : the youngsters entered third grade were 39 percent less likely to be smokers : themselves at age 17 or 18 than children whose parents never butted out for : good.
: Children start to experiment with cigarettes soon after they reach eight or : nine, and these findings suggest that parents who smoke while children are : faced with the option of smoking themselves are a "providing a model of smoking : behavior in the household," study author Jonathan B. Bricker told Reuters : Health.
: In other words, smoking in front of your children can have both physical and : psychological effects, he added.
: "By parents quitting smoking, they are not only protecting their children from : the health hazards of secondhand smoke, but they are also preventing the : children from becoming smokers themselves," said Bricker, who is at the Fred : Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Washington.
: He added that he hopes these findings provide "a new motivation for smoking : parents to quit." : During the study, published in the journal Addiction, Bricker and his : colleagues interviewed both parents of 3,012 third graders, then re-contacted : the families when the children reached 17 or 18.
: Although having both parents quit in childhood lowered teen smoking rates by : almost 40 percent, even one parent's choice to quit during the child's youth : reduced the risk of teen smoking by 25 percent compared to families where both : parents continued to smoke.
: However, the best protection against teen smoking appeared to come from : families in which both parents never smoked, in whom children were 71 percent : less likely to become smokers themselves, than families in which both parents : were still smoking into their child's teen years.
: "The best situation of these groups is to be the child of a never smoker," : Bricker said.
: He added that parents who quit smoking might discourage the habit in their : children by becoming somewhat of an "activist." Kicking an addiction for good : requires a strong resolution, he said, and parents who don't want to restart : smoking may adopt certain habits -- such as speaking negatively about smoking, : sitting the family in non-smoking sections of restaurants, or forbidding : smoking in the house -- which discourage smoking in kids.
: These findings clearly suggest that anti-smoking messages need to target : parents early, Bricker said. Distributing pamphlets and hotline numbers, or : holding meetings at school may help teach parents of young children the damage : their habit can cause, and the "double benefit" that comes from kicking it for : good, he noted.
: "If they quit, they not only help themselves, they can keep their children from : smoking," Bricker said.
: He added that he and his colleagues are currently investigating whether parents : who quit smoking after their children enter third grade also protect them from : teen smoking.
: SOURCE: Addiction 2003;98:585-593.
: : Maddie, non-smoker since March 25, 2003
"ok2bwild" ok2bwildTROU...@yahoo.com
damn. I quit when my oldest was 9. I wonder what that means for him! is his goose cooked? ;) Joy overtired ....need more coffee ...
"Domestic Goddess" mv...@GARBAGE.shaw.ca
When I quit, my daughters were 12, 15 and 16. I was never proud of smoking, and would stop them from "playing" at smoking with a crayon or whatever. I made it very simple. Smoke and I will cut off your hands.
So far, no problems!! LOL Seriously, though, they are obedient children, and tried for years to get me to quit because of the anti-smoking information (propaganda?) at school.
They are prouder of me than anyone.
They saw how often I failed quits and how awful I felt afterwards. I really don't think they would put themselves through this. They KNOW it is addictive, and that even someone as "perfect" as their mother couldn't just put them down.
For the record, both my parents smoked, and there were 4 kids in our family: the 2 in the middle ended up smoking, the oldest and youngest never got into it.
Dg ...
"ok2bwild" ok2bwildTROU...@yahoo.com
My parents both quit smoking before I was born. You know, preNRT...back in the stone age :) I started smoking anyway when I was in college.
When I was growing up they kept screaming at me never to start smoking. My mom is one of "those" exsmokers...the antismoking Nazi types. She's really rude to smokers. I swear I will never be like that.
Yelling at a smoker won't make them quit. Screaming at my kids about it won't make them stay away from it either.
I honestly have no clue how I am going to keep my kids away from smoking.
Quitting is a step in the right direction.
oh well, Joy off to batting cages....
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"rosie readandpost" readandpostREM...@yahoo.com
you aren't!
they will make that choice for themselves and you can continue to be a good example, but you will NEVER be the final word!
rosie mother of four "adults"
"ok2bwild" ok2bwildTROU...@yahoo.com
good example, but you will NEVER be the final You are soooooo correct about this Rosie. They gotta grow up and I gotta let them :) j
Kita m...@privacy.net
This is one of the big reasons I quit.
The health hazards (for me and for ds if he were to smoke as an adult) are bad enough.
But I really think that as children of smokers, it's easier to see smoking as a solution or reaction to life or problems. I don't want him to learn it as a coping mechanism.
I hated smoking as a kid, tried to get my mom to quit from the time I could talk. It wasn't until I was 22 and had some huge *adult* problems that I really turned to sickarettes and smoking. So for me, the ***ociation of smoking = adult solution or consolation was definitely programmed into my subconscious.
Everything about that upsets me, so I don't want to plant that in ds.
BUT No one should feel guilty if they quit later. Even quitting at 90 sets a powerful example. Better now than never.
YMMV, imho, etc. :)
Kita m...@privacy.net
Before I quit, my toddler son (at the time) said, "Here, smoke my finger" and held out his little pinkie.
I took it to mean he wanted all the attention I was giving smoking. That broke my heart.
Maybe it meant nothing, he was just role playing, but it really woke me up and made me feel awful.
:( Stuff like that (yuck feelings) are why I love being quit. Who needs more guilt feelings? Smoking "made" me feel guilty about a lot of stuff.
cora ...@aol.come.on.now (Maddie)
ok2bwild: Heh. Joy, even though I thought maybe parents would find this article interesting, I'm not sure what to make of it.
Both my parents never smoked, and look at me!
Maddie, non-smoker since March 25, 2003
GoddessXena theSPAMgoddessSTOPPERx...@yahoo.com
I think it's cool you're posting articles! The more, the merrier!
Huzzah! :) Battle On!
-GoddessXena I have chosen *NOT* to stick a cigarette in my mouth for 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 44 minutes and 39 seconds after smoking nearly a pack a day for 17 years. 231 cigarettes have not been inhaled, and $63.65 has not been handed over to Big Tobacco. Life saved to burn villages and torture others: 19 hours, 15 minutes.
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