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"Faith P. Wallace" wallac...@hal.lamar.edu
I just found this group. Does anybody use breathing exercises to help mamge your asthma?
Faith Wallace
Colin Campbell col...@linkline.com
On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 12:00:55 -0500, "Faith P. Wallace" Only the fools.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
"visitor" idylo...@earthlink.net
Aren't you glad you found this group?
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In article <8ca5it064lfjjf6fk2t8e78ier2speh...@4ax.com>, Colin Campbell
"will" bm...@loa.comcom
kinda judgemental of an answer dont you think?? maybe the questioner can elaborate by what she meant in her question.
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Colin Campbell col...@linkline.com
I don't sugar-coat things. If it is a bad idea, then I am going to say so.
Asthma is a serious illness that kills with grim regularity. And just about all of those deaths are preventible with current medical treatment.
When the people promoting the breathing treatments can demonstrate that the technique is 'safe and effective' (per current scientific requirements) then it may be worth discussing - until then it is nothing more than quackery.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
"Boyd Annas" boydan...@tstonramp.com
I don't see where breathing exercises could do any possible harm. It seems that the breathing exercises I do helps me considerably. I don't consider it a "treatment" and am certainly not expecting a "cure", but just as exercise that is within my capability helps, so does breathing exercise, and for the same reasons. I don't think the poster was talking about one of the alternative medicine/cult programs.
Boyd
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Eric Jarvis f...@last.dircon.co.uk
as something worth doing in their own right yes...as far as managing asthma goes not directly since the only function is in making it easier to cope with attacks
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eric "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
"jr" goplas...@mindspring.com
what kind of breathing exercises?
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afishe ...@aol.com (AFisherJr)
I find that aerobic exercises have made a definite improvement in my health and thus my lifestyle. In my case, this means walking at a good clip for 40 to 60 minutes, four or five times a week. I also do yoga stretching exercises for 25 minutes three times a week. While it doesn't cure my asthma, I feel that it makes my body stronger to cope with it better. Another thing that I find helpful is relaxation techniques ... as the name implies, it helps me to relax and deal with the problems better. This is important as asthma is affected by attitude. I also feel that there is a place for deep breathing exercises, but have not tried them as yet.
In retrospect, any technique that helps to keep your respiratory system fit and your mind at ease helps. Don't let the nay-sayers discourage you ... go for it!
Al Fisher afishe...@aol.com
"Boyd Annas" boydan...@tstonramp.com
Just exercises in deep breathing and using the diaphragm. I was shown them when I was in the hospital. No big deal, but I think it has increased my lung capacity.
Boyd
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Colin Campbell col...@linkline.com
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:04:20 -0700, "Boyd Annas" So you do not remember the B-word shills?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
Larry Preuss LPre...@provide.net
Could you help me a little here, Colin? I'm not sure where you're going with your objection to exercise, and I don't understand this reference.
Larry
"visitor" galley...@yahoo.com
VERY good! The group is exonerated.
Colin Campbell col...@linkline.com
There is a group of people who promote a 'breathing treatment' as an 'asthma cure.' They use a lot of misrepresented data as their 'scientific evidence' and every so often send a shill here to in an attempt to gain more customers. They also keep track of this newsgroup in such a manner that if the name of the treatment is mentioned they will show up with their sales pitches (this is why we call it the 'B-word')..
I gotta admit that they are very slick in that they use just enough lingo and 'proof' that it is real easy to fool somebody who does not take the time to independently review all of their references.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
"Betty Bridges" bc...@ix.netcom.com
Breathing exercises have been used for a long time in asthma management.
They work for a variety of reasons ranging from psychological to physical.
If you practice breathing techniques (most respiratory therapists can instruct you on proper techniques) when you are not having an attack they can help when you do.
One - focusing on breathing helps over come the helpless feeling that often comes with a severe asthma attack. It works in much the same way as breathing techniques do during childbirth to control pain.
Two - forcing air through already narrowed airways can further irritate already irritable airways. Controlled breathing such as slowing down the rate and depth helps get the trapped air out without increasing the bronchoconstriction.
Three - it is thought that exhaling through pursed lips or other techniques helps create positive pressure that keeps the smaller airways open.
Hardly anything sinister or foolish about using breathing techniques. If breathing techniques can help prevent an attack from escalating and thus reduce use of rescue inhalers, than what is the harm? Notice carefully, I did not suggest stopping medication or that breathing techniques can cure asthma.
Everyone is different and some get better results from using breathing techniques than others. Personally, they are my major method of treatment.
This is with my doctor's blessing as I cannot use regular asthma medications on a long term basis. My asthma is anything but typical and I have had to pretty much figure out how to live and survive with it. The doctors did not have a clue. Both they and I realized it after a point, so they provide supportive care when needed and say do what works for me.
I suggest that anyone interested in breathing techniques, try them and see if they work. Do not stop taking your asthma medication or decrease it without your doctor's supervision. If approached in this manner, I hardly see where trying breathing exercises is harmful or foolish.
Betty Bridges, RN Fragranced Products Information Network http://www.fpinva.org http://www.ameliaww.com/fpin/fpin.htm ...
event ...@my-deja.com (Michael Lim)
Yes. There have been various near-death posts from people who ignored this.
There are exceptions. According to the principle proponent of one breathing exercise that is "the cure for asthma", it can be harmful if done without supervision: "there is a specific training on how to apply this method to each individual patient. If this is done incorrectly there could be severe complications and damaging effects on a patient's health." // "A moment's insight is sometimes worth a life's experience." Oliver Wendell Holmes
Colin Campbell col...@linkline.com
This is only to drum up business. The guy is a fraud.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
Wendy Shamblin dshamb...@earthlink.net
I'm new...
I have found a breathing "technique" that I am having a lot of luck with, but my doctor thinks it's just relieving stress (I disagree). During exercise I find that if I breath rhythmically, exhaling more than inhaling, I can perform much, much better. Example: Inhale, inhale, exhale, exhale, exhale, exhale. I adjust the pattern to the intensity of my exercise, and I can usually work pretty hard (jogging for 45 minutes) without having to stop due to asthma. Of course, I keep my inhaler nearby, just in case. Also, I purse my lips and really puff on my exhale.
As for more "alternative" breathing exercises (ala Dr. Weil), I have tried but have not seen much difference. I do find that being experienced with relaxing breathing that emphasizes exhalation can help during an attack.
I'm curious to hear if anyone else has had any luck in this area.
Wendy
"Boyd Annas" boydan...@tstonramp.com
I dunno. Seems to me the trick is just to breathe some way or your S.O.L.
Boyd
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Eric Jarvis f...@last.dircon.co.uk
I don't know that it has much to do with asthma as such I was taught to control my breathing as part of learning to sing and to act...it helps with cycling too...but it does seem to be very much a case of simply breathing efficiently and staying relaxed...this may affect exercise induced asthma, butI'd have said it was something everyone should learn to do rather than something that specifically relates to asthma
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eric "in the beginning was the word, and the word was 'try switching the damn thing on first'"
"Boyd Annas" boydan...@tstonramp.com
Can we not have the Buteyko spam group return to their own newsgroup? I don't think many of us here wish to buy your products. I don't like these m*** invasions by organized spam groups.
Boyd
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