Is there no one who can help this guy?
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geminiga ...@aol.com (GeminiGal LV)
I have been rereading his emails.
I know I am naive and these emails were meant to seduce me at the time, or at least lull me into a false sense of security etc to pick me clean etc, discover my vulnerabilities etc, but in order to do so, one has to expose some their vlunerability which Andrew has many!
If allegedly half the officials in the state of Maine recognize his instability, the officials in the state of NJ who have had to have more dealings with him especially if his rap sheet is as lengthy as alleged, WHY CANT the government help this guy?
I am beginning to get angry about all these people in official capacity who seem to be looking the other way while someone so destablizes! Or even us, dont any of all the people on the NG have anyone who has the expertise to deal with whatever Adnrews problem is, get them to get on here and help this guy a little?
It is so frustrating to watch, not just the destruction he heaps on others, but his own self destruction in order to do so.
Linda .
lord_terabyte_and_the_bipolar_blues_b ...@cox-internet.com
The problem goes back to the days when people were committed to mental hospitals too easily and often for abusive reasons...like a husband wanting to get a wife out of the way so he could enjoy his mistress.
Such former abuses have resulted in today's climate where it is almost impossible to commit someone and keep them there against their will...no matter how obvious it is that they need help.
On 21 Feb 2001 01:49:09 GMT, geminiga...@aol.com (GeminiGal LV) wrote:
"Indubious" Indubi...@my.house
Ah, but don't you think, once the republicans are firmly entrenched and Scalia is in the Chief Justice position, well, I mean you saw how they handled the election scam...those days will come back, but those hospitals, will be correctional institutions, because it's more PC and less visible.
I got a real bad feeling about the future of mental health care. Especially with a party in power that values profit over patient care.
Just my opinion, time will tell, me I'm prayin' for one term.
D
geminiga ...@aol.com (GeminiGal LV)
A man like you? Exactly what kind of man do you depict yourself as these days?
You seem to be the one having nothing to offer a woman, any woman, Ingrid, her clones, the handmaidens of her or her clones.
Why do you not get help? NOW before your life deteriorates even further!
Living at the Y, having possessions stolen, allegedly your car and your computer, not minor thefts, and what do you who speak of culture, cl*** and high society do for a living these days, guard a dump. In 12 stepping people speak of riding their disease alll the way to the dump!
As far as I know you are not even an alky and youre the first person rode your disease, literally to the dump!
Wake up!
Linda
"bobwhelan" bobwhe...@ntlworld.com
If there were such a guy YOU would call him a troll and accuse him of encouraging rapists if he even communicated with him!!!!
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geminiga ...@aol.com (GeminiGal LV)
I have emails from him stating who is behind the felony rap he alleges he has.
If you have the rap sheet, you must now know who is behind the felony rap.
And that is pretty bad, when it comes to that!
does anyone else feel so impotent seeing the need for a human to be help, while no help is forth coming?
Linda
"Terminus Est" heresia...@worldnet.att.net
Linda, After all the abuse you've had heaped on you, it is very kind of you to show comp***ion.
Fortunately, I'm not afflicted with that.
Look, some people are sick, and need help... they can get easily frustrated, particularly their first time in these newsgroups and they can get real flaky. But a lot of times they come back, calmed down & ready to participate.
But Linda, some people are just plain mean... they may be sick, they may need help... but they LIKE to hurt people, they get off on it. These kind of people deserve zero comp***ion, and zero forgiveness.
See, unlike a lot of people, I don't think all really ****ed up bad behaviour is the product of some mental illness... mental illness may play a part in it... but, you've got hundreds of people in these two DM groups who allegedly are "mentally ill"... and are not needlessly and wantonly cruel and hurtful.
I think that most people have a pretty good idea of what's good and bad...
that it's wrong to hurt other people needlessly, that it's a pleasurable experience to act in an honest, caring, gentle manner. If you really CAN'T tell the difference and harm people, you should be cared for... but removed from the community for good. If it's really bad (Bundy, Gacy, Dahmer, Heidnik, among others)...well, we euthanize rabid dogs.
But a lot of people know the difference and just do what they want anyway...
from CEOs of major corporations, politicians, cops, criminals... to these low trolls on the Usenet.
Some people are just plain BAD.
Please, save your comp***ion for the honest people who come here looking for help and support. There's plenty of people in serious pain who would like a few kind words. It's wasted on Chlimensky and his ilk.
Jim M.
geminiga ...@aol.com (GeminiGal LV)
I didnt know someone wanting to help Andrew would think it would be helpful to him for them to help him by attacking the very people Andrew is constantly "kicking" (his words per private emails).
I think someone who hoped to help Andrew would address their posts to ANDREW as I see Anna doing, and you notice I havent called Anna a troll or encourager of psychologica rape.
I dont see how you can possibly believe what you are doing is helpfult to Andrew. Even if your intention is good, Rather than helping Andrew, you are inflaming the bad feelings exist in people been kicked by him, how does that help Andrew. I would think anyone desiring to hlep andrew would be directing their posts to Andrew trying to reach him and help him see things the way they really are! That be the beginning way to help Andrew.
IMO, some crack in the denial, or delusions or whatever his mental blank spots.
certainly not going to help andrew by attacking those he has relaentlessly attacked!
LInda
"bobwhelan" bobwhe...@ntlworld.com
Im not attacking you Linda ,I try toattack uglymindedness wherever it comes from (and in me too),from your experienced point of view maybe seems Don Quiote...Theres a big difference between empathy and sympathy..You dont really think I agree with everything Andrew says and does do you?
Im not a troll in training but Im certainly getting an insight into how people become like that.
It would make a good paper,"The socialisation and training of trolls" I can see how it must seem to you but things arent always what they seem are they?
One guy has sugessted rather than your trainee ,Im actually some sort of trollmaster coaching trolls globally it seems ..Ill have to see if Ive got 666 tattooed on my scalp or something....
Thats it..going to bed , Glad I caught your post though, Regards, Bob ...
geminiga ...@aol.com (GeminiGal LV)
Well it all comes down to that, "Is he BAD or "MAD?".
This guy seems to have contacted half the officials in the state of Me, and made his instability or badness known to them, and based upon his alleged rap sheet, lot of people in postiion of authority in NJ must be aware there this problem there known as Andrew Chmilewsky, and somebody with some authority has to determine just that, whether the guy is BAD or MAD and put him whereever he belongs accordingly.
Linda
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