Dangers of Anabolic Steroids!!!
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scary_c_ ...@hotmail.com (Scary_C)
I saw a spam posting trying to sell Roids on this group which was dumped before I finished writing my post, since I want to benefit man kind, here it is!
A steroid is a chemical substance derived from cholesterol. The body has several major steroid hormones -- cortisol and testosterone in the male, estrogen and progesterone in the female. Catabolic steroids break down tissue, and anabolic steroids build up tissue. Anabolic steroids build muscle and bone m*** primarily by stimulating the muscle and bone cells to make new protein.
Athletes use anabolic steroids because they increase muscle strength by encouraging new muscle growth. Anabolic steroids are similar in structure to the male sex hormone, testosterone, so they enhance male reproductive and secondary sex characteristics (testicle development, hair growth, thickening of the vocal cords). They allow the athlete to train harder and longer at any given period.
Anabolic steroids are mostly testosterone (male sex hormone) and its derivatives. Examples of anabolic steroids include: Testosterone Dihydrotestosterone Androstenedione (Andro) Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Clostebol Nandrolone Effects ***ociated with anabolic steroid abuse range from acne, baldness and breast development in men, increased irritability and aggression, to liver cancer, heart attacks, and high cholesterol.
People who inject steroids run the risk of contracting hepatitis or HIV because of the elicit nature of ???Juicing' it tends to be done under unsanitary conditions by people untrained in safe medical practices.
Oral Steroids have the potential to damage or destroy the liver.
In females, the excessive concentrations cause male characteristics to develop and interfere with normal female functions. The drugs can: Stimulate hair growth on the face and body Suppress or interfere with menstrual cycle, possibly leading to infertility Thicken the vocal cords, which causes the voice to deepen, possibly permanently If pregnant, interfere with the developing fetus Withdrawal symptoms include mood swings, fatigue, restlessness, loss of appetite, insomnia, reduced sex drive, and depression.
This depression can lead to suicide attempts and if left untreated, can persist for a year or more after the abuser stops taking the drugs.
So there you have it! Maybe most people here know a bit about this stuff? But for those who don't there are a lot of sites pushing the idea that you can safely use these drugs. The fact is that as a performance enhancing drug Steroids are not used much anymore by drug cheats because they are detectable and athletes who did use them are either dead, physical mutants or ****ed up in one way or another and it may take years for the side effects to become apparent.
Some M***- and strength-enhancing drugs used by athletes apart from Anabolic steroids include: Beta-2 agonists Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) Luteinizing hormone (LH) Human growth hormone (hGH) Insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) Insulin I'm sure there are many more!
S.C
bill ...@aol.com (BillCMQ)
scary scares us with his words of "wisdom"> The body has several major steroid hormones -- cortisol and testosterone in the Golly, women don't have cortisol? How tragic. Actually, normal males have small amounts of estrogen, and women small amounts of testosterone- except for my 7th grade English teacher- she had m***ive levels ;-).
Wow, now osteoblasts are producing protein!
New muscles? How about increasing actin and myosin in existing muscle fibers?
A typical overly broad generalization, false except for a few bad examples.
And, the word is "illicit", not "elicit." Not according the American College of Sports Medicine. The only permanent direct consequence of the anabolics is clitoral enlargement.
"it" being scary's recasting of scientific data.
Especially intriguing are those who gre a 3rd arm out of their navel! ;-).
Anabolic steroids are bad news, and should not be encouraged. Organized medicine made a mistake back in the 70's by claiming that they "really didn't work," a position blatantly belied by the results seen by users. Semi-accurate condemnations are perhaps not much more useful.
Bill
Karim Rashad m...@privacy.net
Of course they do! That's exactly how bone formation works. Osteoblasts produce the 'matrix' upon which the mineral component forms. Said matrix is mainly formed of protein, mostly variants of collagen; and a little osteocalcin, another protein.
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billmahone ...@aol.com (BillMahoney68)
Steroids are bad for people, true(though they are GOOD in some ways too so it depends on the individual, who may have health issues) i give you that, but to deny that MILLIONS of americans alone are on them for athletic purposes is crazy.
Yeah, they can be detenced.
And they ARE detected, constantly.
AND there are masking agents.
AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF ATHLETES ARE NEVER TESTED.
You say athletes at least, which is good.
Because steroids are a medicine.And I've been on them off and on my whole life due to health issues.
I am not dead yet.
In fact, I can guarentee you that without steroids I would be dead.I've been pulled back from the brink on 3 occasions with powerful IV steroid doses, most recently two weeks ago.
I dont mean to dilute your message, just to expand on it.
If you are not a pro athlete with millions riding on your career and you are in good health, then doing steroids just to look more buff or to make starter on your beer belly softball league is something you might wanna think twice about.
Gi
scary_c_ ...@hotmail.com (Scary_C)
> The body has several major steroid hormones -- cortisol and testosterone in
> the
> >male, estrogen and progesterone in the female.
As far as I know every thing I said was right, I don??™t as a hobby keep up with every pharmacological journal on developments in steroids so how can my knowledge be anything but general?
But I think I know more than most people who have never been exposed to this sort of drug culture in sports!
The information in my first posting was not made up off the top of my head and I??™m sorry I don??™t have a dictionary or a chemistry book grafted into my brain so my use of ???elicit instead of Illicit??™ is a minor typo not valid argument against my posting.
???Golly, women don't have cortisol? How tragic. Actually, normal males have small amounts of estrogen, and women small amounts of testosterone- except for my 7th grade English teacher- she had m***ive levels ;-). >stimulating the >muscle and bone cells to make new protein. Wow, now osteoblasts are producing protein!" Really! Only small amounts of Testoserone; Gee so women taking a huge dose of male hormone to improve their performance and physique must really be safe!
Look it seems to me that you probably are using this shit or have used it! Will you suffer side effects ???I don??™t know??™ are there possible side effects absolutely!
I had to take steroids when I suffered a m***ive allergic reaction and almost died, it saved my life but I suffered clinical depression for over a year.
If you can imagine a metaphorical cloud that covers your body through which all sensations and impressions get drained of they??™re meaning and value. It??™s as if you are living in a colorless, meaningless world and you don??™t care about anything; that??™s what clinical depression is like.
If I didn??™t intellectually know that it was a side effect I would have thought I was going insane.
And Osteoblasts do produce protein, look it up.
S.C
"Corey" upyoursvirusg...@sbcglobal.net
Corey Says-
I find that almost all illnesses are caused by lack of nutrition and can be eliminated with diet changes and or good supplements. The disease is just a symptom of a deficiency. Drugs are made from synthetic or animal products which always cause side effects, so you should use them only on a temporary basis if at all. You would be better off finding what substance you are lacking in your diet. end.
Kevin Lowe m...@private.net
You're behind the times. We recently learned of the existence of things called "pathogens" and "genes". It might be too early to say, but we think they might have something to do with some illnesses.
I guess modern medicine is on completely the wrong track. Veggies are the solution. I wonder why epidemiological studies haven't picked this up yet?
Kevin Lowe, Tasmania.
"Corey" upyoursvirusg...@sbcglobal.net
Corey Says-
Yes and wouldn't a strong immune system destroy the "pathogen" instead of destroying the immune system with toxic drugs in example CHEMO Therapy?
If someone is predisposed to a disease because of genetics, they should be preventing it all the more in my opinion.
And how many diseases have your wonderful medicines cured? All I hear from your type is words like "may" , "might", and sentences like " it's to early to tell ", as they charge you a fortune. end.
Corey Says-
Because Drug companies cannot patent a natural substance. They have to make a synthetic form ( that doesn't work nearly as well with side effects) as they ignore the better original natural substances, for $$$$$$$$$$.
Your wrong about the epidemiological studies. Just to a quick search on the web.
Be aware that most of the supplements available are complete trash. You need pharmaceutical grade supplements from trustworthy companies, this is the hardest part.
bill ...@aol.com (BillCMQ)
Corey, reponding to Bill Mahoney says: Intriguing. So, if I eat right, I will be immune to the processes of aging? And no microbes, no matter how virulent, will ever attack me?
Change "almost all" to "some" and "almosal" health professionals- the ones who deal with illness on a daily basis, will probably agree.
Some drugs are synthetic, but a much greater number are derived from plants-
especially if you count the yeasts as plants. This is particularly for steroids- the group of drugs which this thread is meant to address. one example is Digoxin- derived from the foxglove leaf. Iwthout it, we'd have no need for most of our nursing homes- the residennt would have died of heart failure (dropsy). Another is Taxol (and its derivatives)- derived from an evergreen, and used to fight a variety of cancers.
One of the few derived from animals is thyroid extract, and of course, there is Premarin.
So do food excesses.
Achieving a well-balanced diet is vital for health, but people without dietary imbalances still get sick. Medications are best used when and only when they are needed. For some, that need is "for a lifetime," no matter how good the nutrition.
Trying to maintain health requires both nutrition and medications- on an "as needed" basis.
Bill
zxcvnos ...@yahoo.com (zxcv)
Gi, What type of steroids were you given? Most steroids are not anabolic (for example, cortisone).
"Corey" upyoursvirusg...@sbcglobal.net
aging?
Corey Says-
It's almost impossible to eat, drink and breath right with all the pesticides, dirty air, water and whatever other corner cutting being done.
Lack of minerals in the soil that the produce is grown in etc. So you have to use supplements.
You can have a much better and longer life but unless some genetic therapy is done you will eventually succumb to old age. end.
And Corey Says-
They are always attacking but your immune system will take care of it.
That's why some people with AIDS no longer have HIV. The doctors just claim a miss diagnosis. Wouldn't want to get rid of that cash cow! end.
Corey Says-
To bad those people in nursery homes can't get access to good supplements through their insurance. They would probably improve their health by treating the cause of the problem instead of dropping dead from a botched drug subscription, designed only to just treat the symptom. But we all know that will never happen because of the big drug companies and the whore politicians.
Yes as I said they make synthetic forms of the chemicals in plants that don't work nearly as well as the original substance. Pharmaceutical grade supplements are the exact isolated substances. end.
Corey Says-
Not the same thing. end.
Corey Says-
Yeah. The standard we will always need drugs, never cure the disease party line. end.
Kevin Lowe m...@private.net
It depends. If you get a puncture wound infected with tetanus then you'd better hope you've had your nasty tetanus shots from the evil pharmaceutical companies, because otherwise you're in trouble no matter how many "supplements" you've stuffed down your placebo-hole. If a rabid dog bites you, then without modern pharmaceuticals you are *screwed*. Even Ebola isn't quite as bad as rabies, but you still stand an excellent chance of melting into a pile of goo no matter how many vitamins you take.
There are a handful of drugs that "destroy the immune system", and they are used as little as possible. There are vaccines that boost the immune system. Most drugs do nothing either way to the immune system.
Forget "predisposed", many people have illnesses with genetic causes.
Smallpox? Polio? Diabetes? Anything caused by bacteria, because antibiotics nail those suckers? Anything you can immunise against, because immunisation works? What the hell have dietary supplements ever cured?
As opposed to the placebo supplement industry, who make *so* many concrete, detailed claims I suppose? Read the junk those people put out some time. It's all "may", "might", "is said to", "can help" and "may help prevent".
Only with modern medicine to you get the truth, which is typically something like "82% of people taking this drug reported an improvement as opposed to 55% on the placebo".
I see, it's all a conspiracy and all the medical researchers and epidemiologists in the world are in on it. They're concealing the fact that all illnesses are caused by not popping "supplements". Of course, there's no proper evidence of this because the conspiracy has covered it all up.
Gee, it's a good thing the people selling dietary supplements at a huge profit have the courage to come out and expose the conspiracy.
True in some cases, certainly not in others. The problem with "natural" medicine is there is no dosage control. When people have looked at the amount of active ingredient in "natural" medicines it's varied by more than a factor of ten between batches. That's not good.
If the evil pharmaceutical company sells you a pill with 500mg of aspirin, you better believe that there is 500mg of aspirin in there and not 50mg or 5000mg.
By the way, every drug has side effects and anyone telling you different is selling you something. It doesn't matter whether it's made from crushed seahorse testicles or genetically engineered yeast. They all have side effects, and your body cannot tell where the molecules came from.
Yes, I well recall the articles in the scientific literature. "SARS bug loose in Hong Kong, scientists urge everyone to eat some gingko biloba and maybe have some of that organic wheatgr***, it's great against SARS".
Every pseudoscience needs an escape hatch. "You ate the wheatgr*** and still got rabies? Well, obviously it wasn't ridgy-didge wheatgr***. You should have bought my brand of wheatgr***, that would have cured your rabies".
Kevin Lowe, Tasmania.
billmahone ...@aol.com (BillMahoney68)
I'll be sure to p*** this on to my doctors.
Thank you for changing my life.
Ah.
Fascinating.
All of em...or just the ones that if I stop taking I won't die?
Unfortunatly thats hard.As I do not eat.I get nourishment intraveineously.
Gi
Mark Goldberg msgoldb...@optonline.net
You've been on catabolic steroids...No?
How's the recovery from the abscesses coming along.
I hope the per diem nurses look sweet, smell good, and you feel like conversation as they bend over ... and they're thinking in their dear little hearts of that reasonable exercise that involves open guard, as lively intercourse.
I think nature's storehouse of vigor should be experienced well, nurtured with aliveness, and not looked down upon as some bank deposit to stuff like a politicians sad low power dream within a ballot box.
Mark
billmahone ...@aol.com (BillMahoney68)
It's not.But now I'm on new meds and I'm suppossed to turn the corner soon.
When I feel poor I barely notice.When I get better, and notice the nurses.They discharge me.
Ok.So you're saying live life like theres no tommorrow?
Gi
"phauna" rebekahmorga...@optusnet.com.au
Wtf? How about polio, tetanus, dyptheria, TB, rabies, malaria, leprosy.
mark goldberg msgoldb...@optonline.net
You mean like skills and thrills??
I dunno...
I'm not that alive... but I'd say, if a person doesn't understand all that they already have, and march that course up and down, then trying to mark the deck puts the cart before the horse.
Mark
"Jacob Andersen" d...@glem.det
Are you sure that illness isn't punishment from God? Cause I heard that once.
/Jacob
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"You think he didn't know the 8 points and how to end a life with a super quickness?"
- RestInParadise
"Corey" upyoursvirusg...@sbcglobal.net
Corey Says-
What is your main type of illness or illnesses and I will try to tell you what nutrition will likely improve it. If you want to keep it private, let me know and I will send my email so you can respond privately. end.
"Corey" upyoursvirusg...@sbcglobal.net
Coery Says-
Not to nit pick but none of those diseases have been cured. They have come up with vaccines but other than rabies it is debatable whether they had any thing to do with the end of the outbreaks. Not drinking sewer water, better hygiene and quarantine are the likely causes of the end of the outbreaks.
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bill ...@aol.com (BillCMQ)
There's a big difference between "cure" and eradication. Had I been infected wuth TB or malaria, and those *evil medicines* resulted in the infection no longer existing in my body. I just might think of having been cured. The diseases still exist- in nature- polluted or unpolluted.
Smapox, on the other hand, has ben eradicated- as far as we know- NO known cases on the entire planet for decades.
In the last half of the 20th century, England stopped vaccinating for pertussis. The result? 10 years after stopping the vacines, incidence of pertussis skyrocketed- only in England. What, did they all start drinking sewer water?
Bill
"Corey" upyoursvirusg...@sbcglobal.net
Corey says-
If you have abscesses the first thing I would try is....
http://xango.net/index_flash.html 2nd I would recommend Collodial Silver and Somazyme. Information available at http://lifeplus.com/ I know you won't believe me and they look like snake oil but these 2 companies sell the best quality. end.
"phauna" rebekahmorga...@optusnet.com.au
Brilliant!
All you have to do to when dealing with diseases is not to get them. I'd love to hear what Corey thought about medicines if he lived in Africa.
An analogy would be that your body killing the disease is also not curing the disease as it still exists in some people who don't happen to drink wheatgr*** shots for breakfast.
If you had leprosy, I'm sure you would take medicine.
billmahone ...@aol.com (BillMahoney68)
Ok, I got crohns disease.
But I will have a dillemma if your advice runs in opposition to my nutritionists advice, huh?
I just keep the leprosy private.
Gi
Kevin Lowe m...@private.net
You do realise that the available objective evidence is that colloidal silver does jack shit?
Here's a clue: you are no more qualified to dispense pharmaceutical advice than I am qualified to perform brain surgery. If you have any sense of social responsibility, stop peddling this bullshit. People might believe you instead of going to see a proper doctor.
Kevin Lowe, Tasmania.
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