Denali Award ?
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"Richard Westover" westo...@sgi.com
Hello, I was searching USSSP web site on Varsity Scouting program and awards. I came across the requirements for the "Denali" award. It seems like it is the higher 'Varsity Specific' award.
Does anybody know where I get some more information or if anybody has had experience with the Varsity advancement programs.
The award talks about being involved in activities in the 5 fields of emphasis. I did find the five fields, but was looking for some good examples of 'activities'.
5 Fields of Emphasis are: - Advancement - High Adventure and Sports - Service - Personal Development - Special Programs and Events.
The final requirement is a "board of review with a district/council rep." Anybody been on one of these boards ? How about you Hugh ?
Also while I'm asking - the requirements for Varsity Pins seem very open ended and seems to be left open to the local leaders to determine what it takes to earn a pin.
Anybody have any examples of what they have required of the boys to earn a pin.
One thing that I've noticed about Varsity Teams (at least in our Council) most of the units are chartered by LDS church.
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
Denali Award The Denali Award is available only to a Varsity Scout team's youth members who have already earned the Varsity Scout letter. Denali is the name American Indians gave Mount McKinley, in central Alaska. The requirements for the award are: 1. Be a registered Varsity Scout team member.
2. Advance one rank toward Eagle. If you are already an Eagle Scout, earn a Palm.
3. Hold leadership positions in a Varsity Scout team for at least six months.
4. a) While serving as team captain or a program manager, act as primary leader on at least two activities. Program managers should choose activities in their field of emphasis. Team captains may be primary leaders of activities in any of the five fields of emphasis.
b) While serving as a program manager or team captain, demonstrate shared leadership skills by participating in supportive roles in activities in each of the three remaining fields of emphasis.
5. Satisfy the team captain that you know and live by the Varsity Scout Pledge.
6. Complete a progress review.
The five fields of emphasis are: Advancement. Varsity Scouts use the same advancement program as Boy Scouts. They can also receive the recognitions offered through such programs as the Fifty-Miler Award, Mile Swim, BSA, etc.
High Adventure/Sports. This program field of emphasis includes high adventure and sports and is supported by 27 program features.
Personal Development. Varsity Scouting promotes growth through spirituality, leadership abilities, citizenship, social and cultural attributes, and physical fitness.
Service. The emphasis is on service, until it becomes a constant ingredient in one's daily experience. Projects are conceived, planned, managed, and carried out by individual Varsity Scouts and/or the Varsity Scout team.
Special Programs and Events. Varsity Scouts take an active part in special programs and events on district, council, regional, and national levels.
The Varsity letter may be earned by youth and adult members. The youth requirements are: 1. Be a registered Varsity Scout team member.
2. While a team member, actively participate in or accomplish at least one high-adventure program or sports program to the satisfaction of your Varsity Scout Coach.
3. Have an attendance record at team meetings and practice sessions of at least 75 percent for three consecutive months.
4. Satisfy the Varsity Scout Coach that you know and live by the Scout Oath and Law.
At the completion of each sports season or ultimate adventure, each participating Varsity Scout will receive a medallion to wear on the letter.
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Samuel Jahaza Howard sh0...@mail.rochester.edu
Does the Venture Letter still exist, for Venture Patrols? I earned one, but only managed to earn the one pin with which I earned the letter. It was especially cool to me as I never earned a Varsity Letter in High School.
(Please no terminology flames.) Sam Howard
kyblkea ...@aol.com (settummanque or blackeagle)
Richard Westover wrote and asked: Stephen already posted a followup to this question; additionally, you can get information from my Denali Award page http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle/denali.htm or you can get it straight from the source by getting a copy of the Varsity Scout Handbook.
Just like the Eagle and the Silver Award.
No difference...
I haven't sat in one yet but I've had two other Scouters who have sat in on them tell me that the run exactly like the Boy Scout Eagle Scout Board of Review. The only difference is that the Board members are asking about the Scout's experience with the Team, the team and squad leadership, and the events and activities the Team and he has participated in.
Yeah. That's the way it is nationally, but it doesn't mean that they are the only ones earning the medal....
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"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
We are talking two different things: Venturing and Venture Patrol. Venture Parol is similar to Varsity Scouting. They are both for the older Boy Scout.
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A Venture patrol is an older-boy patrol within the Boy Scout troop.
Having a Venture patrol will help keep older boys active in Scouting by providing opportunities for high-adventure and sports activities that may be too physically challenging for younger boys in the troop.
There are three kinds of patrols: new-Scout patrols, regular patrols, and Venture patrols.
New-Scout patrols are for 11-year-old Scouts who have recently joined the troop and are together for the first year in the troop. An older, experienced Scout often is ***igned as a troop guide to help the new-Scout patrol through the challenges of troop membership. An ***istant Scoutmaster should also ***ist the new-Scout patrol to ensure that each Scout has every opportunity to succeed right from the start.
Regular patrols are made up of Scouts who have completed their First Cl*** requirements. They have been around Scouting long enough to be comfortable with the patrol and troop operation and are well-versed in camping, cooking, and Scouting's other basic skills.
A Venture patrol is an optional patrol within the troop made up of Scouts age 13 and older. These troop members have the maturity and experience to take part in more challenging high-adventure outings. The Venture patrol elects a patrol leader, who works with an ***istant Scoutmaster to put the patrol's plans into action.
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Venturing is a youth development program of the Boy Scouts of America for young men and women who are 14 (and have completed the eighth grade) through 20 years of age.
Local community organizations establish a Venturing crew by matching their people and program resources to the interests of young people in the community. The result is a program of exciting and meaningful activities that helps youth pursue their special interests, to grow, to develop leadership skills, and to become good citizens.
Venturing crews can specialize in a variety of avocation or hobby interests including high adventure, church-based, sports, etc.
Venturing Advancement Awards. A variety of awards are available to Venturers who accomplish specific advancement achievements. These awards include: * Venturing Bronze Awards * Venturing Gold Award * Venturing Silver Award * Venturing Ranger Award * Sea Scouting Quartermaster Award
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Samuel Jahaza Howard sh0...@mail.rochester.edu
But does the Venture letter/pins (which was just the Varsity letter with a different name) still exist for Venture Patrols? The requirements were the same as for the varsity letters/pins in a varsity team.
<information on difference between Venture and Venturing and on venturing awards snipped> Sam Howard
wahowl ...@aol.com (WA Howland)
<< >Does anybody know where I get some >more information or And for those of you who do training, the new BSA training "box" just got a new addition-- an orange case with Varsity leader training in it, to round out the collection of others, previously delivered, for the other program areas.
The new Fast Start is in there too..
YiS AB
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
No. That was for a Venture program which was similar to the Varsity program that was dropped. Since Venture Patrols are part of regular Boy Scouts they use the Boy Scout advancement program.
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Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
Steve, Hopefully, I can help out here.
That program still exists, it was not dropped but seems to not be emphasized. Venture Patrol members can earn the same letter and activity pins as the Varsity do. They just call them Venture Letter and activity pins. They use the Varsity Team Program Features books (look under the title on the books and you will see it mentions that they are for Venture Patrols as well). This is not taught in Scout Leader Specific training, though, I don't think, so it is not utilized.
Here is one way of using the program (taken from a note from Mike Brown): The Scouts can stay in their original patrols. They don't have to leave to be in the Venture Patrol.
The Venture Patrol (VP) can be used ONLY for the Venture activities and not the regular troop activities (ie inter-patrol competitions, camporee stuff, etc).
Organize the VP around each Venture activity the Scouts choose, and this may run for about 3 months or so. Then: 1. Get the 13 and older Scouts together separate from the troop. [if the troop wants to set a higher age or rank requirements, that's their choice] 2. Have them brainstorm and decide WHAT they want to do. Do a Scuba trip? Backpacking trip? Be a team in the bowling league? etc. Its up to the boys.
3. Once the event has been decided, determine WHO will be part of the Venture Patrol for this go around. Not all the boys may want to do that activity, so let those who don't have the option to drop out.
They can join in the next event. Only those who are members of the VP during this time period are allowed to wear the "Venture" strip. [the strip is NOT an award, but identification, like a patrol medallion.
thus you don't wear it if you nor part of it] 4. With something like a backpacking trip or the like, the idea is that the next 3 months or so, the VP is preparing itself for that trip. For something like a bowling league, the idea is they are participating in the league for a 3 month (or however they are organized) period as a team, leading up to the finals or what have you.
5. At the end of the period, award the Venture letter and appropriate pin. The letter goes on the merit badge sash &/or scout jacket. Pins go on the letter.
Use the Varsity Team Program Features books for help in planning out the Venture activities. Those 3 books are for BOTH Varsity Scout Teams AND Venture Patrols.
<end of note from Mike Brown> For more info on the difference between venture patrols and Venturing Crews see: http://usscouts.org/advance/docs/VVVtable.html See the following links for more info: http://www.scouting.org/activities/venturecrews/index.htm http://www.scouting.org/boyscouts/resources/34307/olderboys.html http://www.scouting.org/boyscouts/resources/18-202/index.html Hope this helps, Bill
Samuel Jahaza Howard sh0...@mail.rochester.edu
Thanks.
Sam
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
Bill, Venture Units (not Venturing) can continue to exist but none are being started is what I was told. But I have no evidence that there is a Venture Patrol advancement program for use in traditional troops. Maybe what is happening is that it is being used as a recognition program rather than the advancement program that it is in Varsity Scout units.
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Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
Steve, I think you are correct, it is a recognition program NOT an advancement program in BOTH Boy Scouting (Venture Patrols) and Varsity Scouting.
It is similar to sports and scholastic pins in Cub Scouts.
bill
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
Here is what the BSA website says: The Varsity letter may be earned by youth and adult members. The youth requirements are: 1. Be a registered Varsity Scout team member.
2. While a team member, actively participate in or accomplish at least one high-adventure program or sports program to the satisfaction of your Varsity Scout Coach.
3. Have an attendance record at team meetings and practice sessions of at least 75 percent for three consecutive months.
4. Satisfy the Varsity Scout Coach that you know and live by the Scout Oath and Law.
Obviously a Venture patrol member could not meet these requirements since they never satisfy the first requirement. I am surprised they say the Varsity Scouts must earn the letter but Venture patrol members can wear it without earning it unless they have published Venture patrol requirements for the letter somewhere.
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Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
This may all be a 'work in progress' Look on page 143 of the Scoutmaster Handbook: "Upon completing a feature, Venture and Varsity Scouts may be awarded an activity pin in acknowledge of thier achievement.
BSA literature supports each Venture and Varsity program feature." on page 144 (in comparision chart): "Venture patrols and Varsity Scout teams are in separate programs that share the same program features. " Also see: Insignia Guide under Boy Scout Participation and Achievement you will find reference to the Venture Letter and pins.
Hope this helps.
bill
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
Varsity Program Features is a 3 volume set of books, not insignia.
Even though it is the Boy Scout section it says they are for Varsity crew members, not Venture patrol members in my copy.
I don't have any problem with the BSA including the Varsity letter and pins in the Venture patrol program, but I haven't seen any documentation that says they already have. Our troops that want to use the Varsity letter and pins just get a Crew Charter for their older boys and there are not questions. It also means they can earn the Denali Award and the Eagle. The troop and crew do some things together and some things seperately.
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Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
There really is no such thing as 'Venture Scouts' if they don't belong to a Venture Patrol in a troop. Youth enrolled in Venturing are called Venturers, not 'Venture Scouts'.
I didn't know the 'Language of Scouting' was in print anymore.
true What is the date of your Insignia Guide?
bill
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
We just got our new insignia guides and the new advancement committee books. You are right that the insignia guide very clearly does mention Venture Patrols using the letter and pins. The advancement book does not mention them nor does it mention the Denali Award. I guess they are recognition items and not advancement items. Nowhere does it say how a Venture Patrol member earns the letter. Maybe they just give it away.
The only new thing I could find in the advancement book was the Tiger Den badge.
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Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
Info on the Venture Patrol is very scarce. I don't know why.
Bill
Elbert Wall ew...@ipa.net
Boy is it ever! I've called my council three times in the past week to ask whether or not I have to file any special paperwork with them to set up a Venture Patrol. They don't do me the courtesy of returning my calls.
Does anyone out there have any experience setting up a Venture Patrol inside his Troop?
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
To your council, it is just another patrol. There is no paperwork or other official action. To those of us who have been around a while, this is the latest reincarnation of the Senior Patrol or whatever you called the older boy patrol. Our council still has the books labeled Venture and Varsity. Now they are combined into a set of 3 books labeled Varsity Program Features, but are for the Venture Patrol and Varsity Teams. You might be interested in the Varsity manual, but it is only for ideas since you are in the Boy Scout program.
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Rich Wolos ri...@ntplx.net
Where are you looking? The Scoutmaster's Handbook (have 1998 edition) is loaded with info about venture patrol opportunities, espec. Chap 13.
National http://www.bsa.scouting.org/activities/venturecrews/index.htm gives the big picture. This is an optional program you can initiate in your troop, participants are entitled to wear (red) Venture strip over the right pocket. Otherwise a senior PATROL, and usually gets to do extra high adventure stuff. Most every troop around here has one.
This is NOT Venturing, a separate unit, but a senior "venture PATROL." To see how some other troops have done this, you can go to the search www.metacrawler.com or www.dogpile.com and enter (with the quotes) "venture patrol" YIS rich
Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
That is true, but look at the name of the web page...even the webmaster on the national site is confused. ;-) bill
Bill Nelson bnelso...@nospam.hotmail.com
You don't need any special paperwork. As Stephen said, it is only another patrol in your troop.
Bill
Samuel Jahaza Howard sh0...@mail.rochester.edu
Can't tatoo the Egle Badge on your chest, it's protected against reproduction by congress. :) Sam Howard
"Stephen M. Henning" pigh...@aol.com
I think he is waiting for Venture Crews to come back, check out: http://www.bsa.scouting.org/activities/venturecrews/header.old
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