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"animzmirot" animzmi...@home.com
Well, it's hard to believe, but my kids have been away at summer camp for two full weeks. The house is so quiet it's almost creepy. The first couple of days I kept thinking I needed to pick them up from school or someplace. I just had this creepy feeling that I was forgetting them. But nope, they're at camp.
I've had 2 letters from my daughter, one from my son. His was 3 lines long. It was like that Alan Sherman song, Hello Mudda, Hello Fadda. Remember that? I'm going to treasure these letters forever. They go right into the 'bribe box'.
You know, the box that you swear you're going to show to your kid's fiance unless they pay you the big bucks. :-) I miss them, but the ease of life without kids is amazing.
No cooking, little cleaning, and the lack of constant garbage....it's amazing. The kitchen floor stays completely clean and it doesn't get sticky. I haven't misplaced the remote once. I can use the computer whenever I want. And the cat loves me again. But I don't know if I can take 2 more weeks. That's a LONG time.
Marjorie
"Seanang" seanangnos...@key.net.au
I have a question.
In Aus, these kinds of camps are not common.......I remember watching lots of movies as a kid and wishing desperately I lived in the US!!!! (anyone remember Little Darlings with Tatum O'Neil?) Do most kids go away to these camps? How long do they generally go for?
And what age?
Sorry for the questions...but I'm curious Kerry ...
"just me" jus...@thisplace.now
I cannot answer your question with real data, only anecdotal data. There are many summer camps. Many of them are not the kind you stay at over night but are day camps where kids attend for a week or two. A number of those are affiliated with churches, Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts, 4-H, the Y, and similar organizations. I went to them two different years as a kid in the 1960's. I know several co-workers who send their middle school kids to them because they are helpful in the day care dept., so to speak, when one is a working parent. As to overnight camps, those are very expensive, which immediately limits use to those who can afford it. I've known very few people who either went or sent their kids to overnight camps.
-Aula
"Nan = .....@catnip.com
When I was a kid, my brother and I went to sleep-away camp every summer. It was a YMCA camp, and we were gone for a week. I have no idea what the cost was then, but it's very expensive now.
When my son was young, he went to camp a few times. My aunt was affiliated with a church camp, so he went for a 4 day sleep over camp, and he went to "Asthma camp" (special camp for kids diagnosed with asthma) two summers, for 4 days each. Most camps my son went to had some kind of financial ***istance available for families that couldn't afford the full cost, so that helped us a lot.
He went to lots of day camps at the YMCA, but we needed financial aid for those, and he belonged to a Youth For Christ group that had lots of day camps and trips to places like Amusement parks.
I was lucky to have an ex that was willing to shell out additional monies when my son needed it, to go to these activities :)
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gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
When I was a kid, my father wanted to find something that he and I could do together, so he convinced me that BoiScouts (tm) would be fun.
He got involved, too, and we went on many weekend camping trips with scouts. I remember mostly freezing my butt off.
Then, one summer, they sent me to a 2 week camping trip to (if memory serves) Camp High Sierra.
Oh, how I longed for simply freezing my butt off again!
These folks were merciless! They considered an all day hike in the mountains (23 miles each way) to be fun (I have always hated walking, and a forced march like this sorta reminded me of the Death March during WWII).
I do remember, though, that my father didn't manage to make it to this little fun trip. Instead, he and my brothers and sister got to stay home and watch TV.
Now, there is another type of camp that seems popular for kids, here.
It is sometimes called Boot Camp.
They are set up for kids who march to a different drummer .... and they are designed to get the kids to march to society's drummer.
Their methods are harsh. They yell at the kids a lot, they make them do all sorts of difficult (and often pointless) things.
I think that they got the idea for Boot Camps from Camp High Sierra and the Baton Death March.
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"Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love."
-- _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom ______________________________________________________________ Glen Appleby gl...@armory.com <HTTP://www.armory.com/~glena/>
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe cather...@whitepine.com
Depends on where you are, the parents' income level, and what camps are available that the parents can afford. When I was growing up, I only got to go to camp 2 or 3 summers. It was a one-week church camp. Lil Sis and I rotated the summers we went, 1) because Mamma needed at least one of us home to help with the garden and with Baby Sis and Lil Brother, and 2) because Mom couldn't afford to send both of us, even though it wasn't nearly as expensive as the summer camps I keep reading about.
Last year, OS went for 1 week of Boy Scout camp, YD did 1 week of evenings at Girl Scout Twilight Camp, and YS didn't get to go to camp at all because he has to go to his father's for 8 weeks during the summer and his father won't send him to camp during that time. :-(
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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe cather...@whitepine.com
What??? No church camps set in cedar woods with little hidey-holes with a bench or two where you can go listen to the birds and just relax and think for a while???
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gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
Whoa and wait!
Cadbury Chocolate factory tours?
... do they need some "adult" supervision?
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gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
I don't do church camps.
However, I have the rest of that right here.
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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe cather...@whitepine.com
I had all that, too, there on the farm. But I also had to help take care of Baby Sis and Lil Brother, help in the garden, etc. That one week at church camp was a nice vacation.
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- - Meredith Brooks
"animzmirot" animzmi...@home.com
remember watching lots This is a definate "it depends" question. We're Jewish, and for Jewish kids, yes it is EXTREMELY common to attend summer camp for at least a month, if not two. Study after study have shown that if you want your child to remain actively Jewish throught life, Jewish summer camps are THE way to go about it, so they're very popular and really hard to get into. How hard? Well, we applied in SEPTEMBER for the following summer and weren't sure we would make the cutoff.
:-) If you live on the east coast, summer camps are much more prevalent than the west coast. New Yorkers tend to send their kids to camp more than people further south. Many of the camps are in Maine and the Berkshires, and those camps are almost always filled to the brim.
Hope this helps, Marjorie ...
gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
Ya know, there used to be lotsa stuff that I had to do around here.
Now I just play the sympathy card.
"But Kathy, I just can't *do* that anymore." <grin> Eh, it works sometimes.
Ah, so MS is like church camp, huh?
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"Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love."
-- _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom ______________________________________________________________ Glen Appleby gl...@armory.com <HTTP://www.armory.com/~glena/>
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe cather...@whitepine.com
Uhm, no. MS lasts more than a week.
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- - Meredith Brooks
ma ...@NOSPAM.mediaone.net (Mary MacKenzie)
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:14:20 +1000, "Seanang" The Camps I went to in Canada were for only a week. My sister is now gone for 8weeks as a councillor for one of the camps I went to .
Mary Mother to Thomas Jay - 07/11/99 and ??? - 11/02/01
gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
Ah, but the GoodNuze (tm) is that it doesn't cost anything to get it.
I *must* be cheap, cuz I'll get almost anything that's free.
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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe cather...@whitepine.com
Anything?
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- - Meredith Brooks
"Seanang" seanangnos...@key.net.au
That's a great idea. I must check into that. It's too late for this school holidays, but maybe for over Xmas Kerry
"Sam" cdnmo...@removemehome.com
Don't have kids like that here.(Canada) You can send a kid away for about 6 days for overnight camps.Or day camps are popular here.Great too for a working parent. I just applied for my kids to go to day camps.(aplied for sponsership to pay as I can't afford it) I used to go away to camp one week a summer.I loved it but never seemed long enough to me.I'm sure not to my mom-n-dad too :0) Today I spent the day at the wading pool with the kids.But just found out they don't offer any programs anymore there.But I told the lifeguard if he can provide supplies I would provide my time.Maybe something to do during the day will help motivate me more.Keep my spirits up a bit.
Sam
"Margie" mjklaus...@earthlink.net
It'll get you away from the house and give the kids an outlet. Not only that, Sam but it's an opportunity to meet and make new friends.;=) Margie
gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
If you were to read the entire sentence, you might notice the word "almost" coming *just* before the word "anything".
As I said, I make an attempt to include qualifiers .... just to keep me from getting in even more trouble.
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"Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love."
-- _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom ______________________________________________________________ Glen Appleby gl...@armory.com <HTTP://www.armory.com/~glena/>
gl ...@deeptht.armory.com. (Dirt Devil)
<wimper> OK, to quote a little girl that Kathy used to babysit, "Yer yucky." No, "Yucky" was as close as she could come, at the time, to "lucky".
You shoulda been there for the conversation the first time we heard that from her.
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"Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love."
-- _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom ______________________________________________________________ Glen Appleby gl...@armory.com <HTTP://www.armory.com/~glena/>
"animzmirot" animzmi...@home.com
here.Great too for a Well, not being Canadian I hate to disagree with a local, but you're wrong. There are quite a few overnight camps in Canada. Here are a few names gleaned from http://www.campsearch.com/search.cfm?kw=residential+camps+ca nada These are just 40 out of the 1703 Canadian overnight camps listed on this site.
Marjorie, Camp Ramah alum Medeba Summer Camps Canada Medeba Canadian residential camps in Ontario Canada. We are a traditional summer camp that specializes in adventure activities.
A Youth Leadership Camps Canada Youth Leadership Camps Canada, YLCC, is Canada's only national summer student leadership training camp! This is the camp to attend if your son or daughter wants to get ahead in life!
Canada Language Camp An English Course & Cultural program for international youth. Learn English in Ottawa, Daily activities and tours, and Trips to Toronto, Montreal, Niagara Falls and more!!!
Camp Iona Presbyterian Church in Canada Our goal is to provide a wilderness camping experience within a Christian context. Daily bible study is focused to give an appreciation of God's creation and a love for others. The councellor /camper ratio is 1:4/5 Camp Walden Canada Since 1970, locate on 1000 acres near Bancroft, Ontario, 3 hours from Toronto, 2 from Ottawa, 2 private lakes. Ageneral camp with a wide variety of structured activities.
National Music Camp of Canada Band, orchestra, jazz, music, theater, vocal jazz, woodwinds, br***, suzuki strings, percussion, guitar. All taught by Canada's most talented musicians.
Teen Ranch Canada A year-round non-profit Christian sports camp/retreat centre specializing in professional instruction for ice-hockey, horsemanship, and other activities.
Adventure Camp Ontario Pioneer Camp Well trained staff welcome campers aged 5-10 to Adventure Camp in Muskoka Canada. A high staff to camper ratio (just over 2:1), is one example of our high level of care.
Countless activities are availible to each age of camper.
Keats Camps Keats Camps encourages people t o explore and grow in the Christian faith in a high quality camping experience. We offer many activities in an incredible outdoor setting of 200 acres near Vancouver, Canada.
Camp Wenonah CELEBRATING CANADA'S CAMPING HERITAGE! Traditional Summer Camp, Spring and Fall Outdoor Education Centre, Family Camp and more!
YM YWCA Camp Stephens YM-YWCA Camp Stephens, is one of Canada's longest running summer camps. For generations, young people have come to this breathtaking island south of Kenora, Ontario on Lake of the Woods.
Camp Opemikon Full Service Residential Summer Camp with Scouting values.
Open to members & non members. Life skills, water & land activities, fun, adventure & memories Glen Mhor Camp Our camp offers a wide range of camp activites in the setting of our beautiful Muskoka site. Please contact us for further information.
Boys Camp Ontario Pioneer Camp Boys Camp welcomes boys aged 10-16 to an action packed session. Aside from the many activities outlined, you can attempt jumping off our 12 foot diving tower, racing down our 88 foot vertical water slide or flying down our 450 foot cable zipline.
Girls Camp Ontario Pioneer Camp Girls Camp welcomes girls aged 10-16 to an amazing week of friendship and fun. Girls can choose activities they already enjoy or decide to try a new challenge!
Camp Moshava An Orthodox Jewish residential camp in the beautiful Canadian wilderness. We provide a comprehensive camp experience in a Zionist Bnei Akiva atmosphere.
Camp Tanamakoon An exciting residential adventure for girls from all over the world.Learn skills in a wide variety of activities in a caring and supportive environment!
Camp Banting Camp Banting serves children ages 8 - 15 who have diabetes.
The Camp operates on the Camp Opemikon ( Scouts Canada ) site on the shores of Christie Lake near Perth.
CENTAURI SUMMER ARTS CAMP A residential camp specializing in the arts. Theatre, Dance, Fine Arts, Creative Writing, Musical Theatre, Acting for TV & Film, Kinasao Lutheran Bible Camp Kinasao is a great northern camp for people of all ages and abilities. Lots of programs, canoe trips etc. check out http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/rel/luth-kinasao/text/graphic s/main.html Camp Ma Kee Wa On 100 acres of rolling hills. Share adventures in the outdoors, learn camp and leadership skills,make new friends.
Non-members welcome. Available for rental year round.
Pioneer Ranch Camps Pioneer Ranch Camps ar ecommitted to providing the best camping experience for every camper, no matter what the age!
Camp Kitchikewana Located in Georgian Bay Islands National Park on Beausoleil Island, Kitchikewana ha provided residential camping for over 76 years. Land and Water based programs as well as environmental and international activities.
Camp Winston Camp Winston is a non-denominational residential camp for children with Tourette Syndrome, Learning Disabilities, and/or AD(H)D in July and Campers with Autism in August.
Camp Towhee Camp Towhee is a residential, therapeutic program for children and adolescents with learning disabilities and related pscyhosocial difficulties. Campers must be clients of Integra. Please contact our office.
Ness Lake Bible Camp North central BC's largest Christian Camp on 75 acres of fir and birch covered lake shore. Lake side camps, canoe and Mt.
outrips. Year round retreats.
Pembina Valley Camp An interdenominational Christian camp with a focus on small groups, long camps, and specialty camps(horses, canoe /rock climbing trips and theatre) Camp Kalalla Residential Girls Camp affiliated with CGIT. Offers canoeing, kayaking, swimming, crafts, outrips, and much more in a beautiful outdoor setting.
Camp Trillium Camp Trillium is a camp for children with cancer and their families. We offer family camps, winter camps, and day camps in addition to our residential camps Camp Ramah Camp Ramah in Canada, located in the Muskoka region offers a unique opportunity. Activities for campers include a complete waterfront and a variety of sporting and arts activities.
Rolling Hills Area On 69 acres of hardwood and clear forests, diverse plant and animal life, fields a stream and pond, and nature trails.
Available to members and non-members of Girl Guides of Canada Gracefield Camp Conference Centre A year-round Christian outdoor centre owned by the Presbyterian Church. Located on peaceful 5km Lac Castor near Gracefield, 100km north of Ottawa in the beautiful upper Gatineau valley.
Saddlewood Riding Camp Girls' residential camp for keen horse lovers,Beginner,Intermediate and Advanced riders.English.2 lessons per day.Camp owns almost 100 horses/ponies.
Rideau Hill Camp Rideau Hill Camp is a non-denominational, traditional, residential children's camp located on the beautiful Rideau River.
Camp Ahmek A Taylor Statten Camp Camp Ahmek for boys offers extensive wilderness canoe tripping, as well as superior traditional camp programs.
Family owned and operated since 1921. Located in Algonquin Park. "This is your once-a-year adventure-of-a-lifetime!" Camp Wapomeo The Taylor Statten Camps Camp Wapomeo offers an extensive canoe tripping program, as well as traditional in camp programs. Family owned and operated since 1924. Located in Algonquin Park. "This is where you can share the adventure of a lifetime!" Anglican Summer Camps Camp Wapatek Wapatek is for all kids who want the best summer of their lives! What else do you need to know? Financial aid available. Also available for group rentals from May 1 to Sepember 30.
Belwood Lodge and Camp Belwood Lodge and Camp is a residential camp for mentally challenged children and adults.
Anglican Summer Camps Camp Wapatek Located on a 65-acre island on Lake of Woods, near Kenora, ON, our awesome programs ensure a summer that our campers don't soon forget. Financial aid available. Also available for group rentals May to Sept.
Anglican Summer Camps Family Camp Family Camp is open to all families, groups and individuals.
We offer flexible stays, reasonable rates, full meal service, relaxed atmosphere and a spectacular setting. Book Today!
"Sam" cdnmo...@removemehome.com
and parnoid thoughts to do it.But I will!!!
SAM
"Sam" cdnmo...@removemehome.com
Actually I did NOT say there were NO overnight camps.I said only about week long camps.Also as a single mom living off less than $10,000 a year.Camp is only a dream here.
SAM
"Margie" mjklaus...@earthlink.net
That's the spirit, Sam. I know you can too! ;=) Margie
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