Hubbard College of Administration disowns Hubbard College of New York?
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"Android Cat" androidca...@hotmail.com
http://www.hubbardcollege.org/about/hcaataglance/index.html I was just looking at the Hubbard College of Administration site and noticed that they list "Hubbard College of Administration International has also licensed new Hubbard Colleges in California and Florida in the United States, in Australia, Europe, Russia, the Ukraine and Latin America." ("Big Somewhere Else" mostly.) That was odd, because I certainly have a web site for a New York location: http://www.hubbardcollegenewyork.org (which borks to a sub-sub-level page.) Did they forget about the NY campus, did it rot, leaving a semi-busted web site or did they disown them? A couple years ago, I did have a site for a former high-up in NY who squirreled and removed all references to Hubbard College and WISE from his site. (The site is long gone.) Did the rest of New York follow him out the door?
Another question about Hubbard College: They claim to offer a "Degree program for an ***ociate of Applied Science Degree of Management and Administration." I'm just guessing, but I'll bet that they don't have any official accreditation as an educational institution. Are they over the line by calling their Cracker Jack box degree an "***ociate of Applied Science Degree"?
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Ron of that ilk.
d ...@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky)
These things are regulated at the state level. I don't know New York Law, but it's possible there might be restrictions on granting "degrees" without some sort of state registration as an educational institution. I don't think accreditation is mandatory, but they probably cannot qualify for any sort of student loan program or tuition ***istance/educational grant program without it.
The web site says nothing about accreditation, which isn't surprising, since the list of courses is pure Scieno-crapola. "Personal values and integrity course"? "Management by statistics"? I wonder how many E-meters they have on premises.
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"jerald" jerald-ja...@hotmail.com
wow a two year collage that cost this much?
How much does the degree program cost?
Tuition for the entire program costs $30,179; books and supplies cost $2,643.28; the total cost is $32,852.28.
and i can't find anywhere that says its accredited by anyone.
jerald
"Android Cat" androidca...@hotmail.com
The Hubbard College of Administration is in California.
From recent reports, they have more E-meters than students. They've all been sucked uplines. The center is eating the edge.
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Ron of that ilk.
"Larry T." xxxxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx
This is just a reworked or renamed version of the "Hubbard Personal Ethics and Integrity Course" which I bought from ASHO FDN a long time ago.
It involves writing up one's O/W's on all one's dynamics for one's entire current lifetime, then locating the ethics conditions one is properly in on each dynamic and applying the correct ethics conditions formulas to make one self a person having control from that point on of one's own personal ethics and integrity.
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Mike Gormez mgor...@chello.nl
"On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 21:58:52 -0400, "Android Cat" <androidca...@hotmail.com> wrote in <c40df$44b062ed$d1b7026e$11...@PRIMUS.CA>: I've no time to check these out but they are approved/member by a few organizations: Hubbard College of Administration International is approved by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education.
Hubbard College of Administration is a member of the California ***ociation of Private Postsecondary Schools.
Hubbard College of Administration is a member of the International ***ociation for Continuing Education and Training.
Hubbard College of Administration has been reviewed and approved as an Authorized Provider of continuing education and training programs by the International ***ociation for Continuing Education and Training.
Authorized Provider #201733.
http://www.hubbardcollege.org/about/accreditlicense/index.html ==== I've always wondered how they have done item 2 and how blind they must have been. Anyways, www.Stop-WISE.biz gets well over a hundred pages views each day of every week. So there's certainly an interest in the workings of WISE and the HCA. More than I had expected.
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"Android Cat" androidca...@hotmail.com
http://www.bppve.ca.gov/ "The Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education (Bureau) -- part of the California Department of Consumer Affairs -- works to protect students attending privately operated postsecondary educational institutions." (Oops!) https://app.dca.ca.gov/bppve/school-search/view-school.asp?schlcode=1... The regulated programs listed below are evaluated as Degree granting programs (as defined by Article 8 of the Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education Reform Act), OR Non-Degree granting programs (as defined by Article 6,7 and Article 9 of the Reform Act), OR Registered programs (as defined by Article 9.5 of the Reform Act.), OR Religious Exempt programs (as defined by Section 94739 (b) (6) of the Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education Reform Act.) Please contact the BPPVE if further clarification is required.
CURRENTLY APPROVED/REGISTERED/RELIGIOUS EXEMPT PROGRAMS: [List of Scientology courses snipped] So, the Hubbard College programs are *Religious* floor-topping. That probably gives them a lot of slack for what they can throw into the curriculum and probably a tax-break on fees.
http://www.cappsonline.org/ "We are the oldest and largest ***ociation of private postsecondary schools in California with over 300 School and Allied Members who provide valuable vocational and professional training, products and services to Californians." (Fill the forms, pay the membership?) http://www.iacet.org/ "The International ***ociation for Continuing Education and Training is a non-profit ***ociation dedicated to quality continuing education and training programs. IACET authorizes education providers that meet strict continuing education guidelines created in 1968. IACET certification is the standard learners seek for quality. IACET's Criteria and Guidelines are the core of thousands of educational programs worldwide." (hmmm.) HCA is a IACET Authorized Provider: http://www.iacet.org/about/detail.asp?id=1202 IACET's Criteria and Guidelines page: http://www.iacet.org/resources/documents.htm What Do the Criteria Measure?
The Criteria measure all aspects of an educational provider's program development. IACET Authorized Providers have demonstrated that their programs meet ten criteria. Here is an overview of the criteria and the aspect each evaluates: Criteria 1: Organization Criteria 2: Responsibility and Control Criteria 3: System for Awarding CEU Criteria 4: Learning Environment and Support Systems Criteria 5: Needs Identification Criteria 6: Learning Outcomes Criteria 7: Planning and Instructional Personnel Criteria 8: Content and Instructional Methods Criteria 9: ***essment of Learning Outcomes Criteria 10: Post-Event Evaluation They're not judging on the _content_ of the courses, just that they follow exact processes and have measurable results. (Measurable as in if someone completes course x, they will know y amount of Hubbard buffoonerology.) Somewhere in the States, there has to be an Bible-belt institution that gives doctorate degrees in Applied Revelations, specializing in End-Time Measurement. Probably more than one of them. The HCA might seems sane in that context. If you call it a religion, you can get away with murder.
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Ron of that ilk.
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